Long stock long more gold

Discussion in 'Trading' started by noddyboy, Nov 6, 2009.

  1. noddyboy

    noddyboy

    Hope everyone made 2.2% in gold today and 1.5% in stocks.
     
    #21     Nov 16, 2009
  2. The best trade of the day was in oil IMO, but no one can complain too much about being long stocks/gold.
     
    #22     Nov 16, 2009
  3. noddyboy

    noddyboy

    (breakingviews.com) -- Gold is different from other commodities in many ways. Still, the price of the yellow metal depends on the same three factors as oil or wheat: supply, demand, and financial conditions. Put them together, and the 20% increase since August might only be the beginning.

    Start with supply. Production from mines totaled 2,414 tons in 2008, worth $88 billion at the November 16 price. There will be more this year, but less from 2010 onwards. It will take years for new mines to come on stream. Recycling from scrap jewelry and official gold sales were worth $40 billion in 2008, but those sources aren't likely to cough up much more.

    One central bank has even become a buyer. India recently purchased 200 tons of gold from the International Monetary Fund. If China decided to put 10% of its $2.3 trillion of official reserves into gold, it would need to buy up almost three years' worth of production, at the current price.

    Such a big move isn't likely, but smaller shifts from central banks -- selling less -- could be enough to move the price, as long as other demand keeps up. That's likely. The long period of ultra-easy money may not be undermining the monetary system, but many people fear it might. Some of them will buy some more gold, just in case. With yields on government bonds so low, gold looks like cheap insurance.

    Indeed, financial conditions favor all commodities, gold included. Interest rates are low and banks are more willing to support investors and speculators than to lend to businesses and consumers. Besides, commodities look like a good store of value in the midst of unprecedented fiscal and monetary stimulus in a world of still significant imbalances.

    When money is easy and demand moves much faster than supply, prices can explode. In 18 months from July 1978, gold went from $185 per ounce to $850. That's $2,400 in today's dollars. And interest rates then were much higher than now. A similar price rise from here would bring gold to more than $5,000 per ounce.
     
    #23     Nov 17, 2009
  4. noddyboy

    noddyboy

    No need to fret. Oil down -2.4%, Stocks -1.6% but Gold only -0.3%...sleep easy.
     
    #24     Nov 19, 2009
  5. noddyboy

    noddyboy

    I see 6 days of green. What do you see?

    F 11/20/09 1149.10 +7.20 +0.63
    T 11/19/09 1141.90 +.70 +0.06
    W 11/18/09 1141.20 +1.80 +0.16
    T 11/17/09 1139.40 +.20 +0.02
    M 11/16/09 1139.20 +22.50 +2.01

    F 11/13/09 1116.70 +10.10 +0.91


    Gold is great...
     
    #25     Nov 20, 2009
  6. Whee...end of the week, end of the day HAL9000 ramp up~!
     
    #26     Nov 20, 2009
  7. I sold Thursday morning, repurchased Friday morning at a lower price, gained $525 in free shares. I'm ready for the market to go higher, and I expect it to go higher, starting Monday.
     
    #27     Nov 21, 2009
  8. But I ain't buying into gold !
     
    #28     Nov 21, 2009
  9. noddyboy

    noddyboy

    Already up 1.7% and the day is not even begun. Up 7 days in a row. Up 15 days in last 16 days.

    Trend followers, are you not following the criteria you set out? I expected this thread to be filled with people like me -- the fact that it is barely so explains why trend following works. even if everyone knows the signal, humans don't pull the trigger when need be.
     
    #29     Nov 23, 2009
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    This is the chart for EVERY stock, commodity, asset class. Invert for the USD.
     
    #30     Nov 23, 2009