Long Box Spread as a Diagional

Discussion in 'Options' started by artbos, Mar 22, 2016.

  1. OptionGuru

    OptionGuru



    long position very bullish should read: long position very bullish/bearish




    :)
     
    #11     Mar 23, 2016
  2. destriero

    destriero


    It's termed, a "roll" or "jelly roll"
     
    #12     Mar 23, 2016
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  3. ironchef

    ironchef

    Can you kindly explain?

    Looks to me he shorted a near term strangle and longed a far term straddle. Perhaps he tried to partly pay for the long with a short with the judgement that short term things are not going to move that much but very bullish/bearish long term?
     
    #13     Mar 23, 2016
  4. OptionGuru

    OptionGuru



    Trade the short position first:
    • Short
    • IWM Apr 22 2016 110.00 Cal @ $1.52
    • IWM Apr 22 2016 108.50 Put @ $1.97

    Close the above position around April 22, 2016 and open the long position at a slightly lower cost than the quotes below:

    • Long
    • IWM Mar 17 2017 109.00 Call @ $7.63
    • IWM Mar 17 2017 109.00 Put @ $9.12

    :)
     
    #14     Mar 23, 2016
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  5. donnap

    donnap

    AKA Baghdad Suicide Bomber, um, Spread Thingy

    If the front strangles remains OTM for a while it looks OK. Slippage should be considered as an additional cost. If either option in the short strangle goes ITM = more slippage.

    Gamma gonna get ya if either short option moves DITM.

    If short call gets ITM = potential early exercise before ex-div.

    The combos are redundant. A simple diagonal, could have the same R/R.

    It could be a choppy year and the thing works great. But at least as likely, the long straddle gains delta one way or the other and selling premium may start to become a bit one-sided anyways.

    @106 the short side is about 4.25 long side 17.25 mid. Little volume.

    As far as my experience with ratio diagonals, I like the strat in low IV and skew plays.
     
    #15     Mar 24, 2016