List of who is and is not qualifying for Sept debates as of today

Discussion in 'Politics' started by TreeFrogTrader, Aug 19, 2019.

  1. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Mine would.

    The truth is that the DNC is just as corrupt as the RNC in determining who goes on and has a chance. Trump was a fluke, and they (both parties) learned their lesson well and won't let that happen again.
     
    #11     Aug 21, 2019
  2. Wallet

    Wallet

    Agreed both are corrupt, but the DNC is the poster child for political corruption. Both have their movers and shakers with the bankrolls needed for a national run, you’ll have to kiss ass to earn their favor, but it’s the DNC that actually has super-delegates. Their votes can overturn the popular vote in their primaries.

    You cannot win a democratic primary without the super-delegates regardless of how well you did at the polls. Ask Bernie.

    As of today, all the supers are backing Biden.
     
    #12     Aug 21, 2019
  3. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Ironic that the party most whining about the Electoral College as a vehicle to undermine the popular vote has Super Delegates that do the exact same thing.
     
    #13     Aug 21, 2019
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  4. Wallet

    Wallet

    Yes, they supposedly changed the rules regarding super-delegates voting for 2020.;)

    We’ll see. Their support for certain candidates early in the mix can’t be overlooked. We’re watching it unfold with Biden.
     
    #14     Aug 21, 2019
  5. They did change the rules. Sorta, and sorta not.

    They changed them so that the superdelegates cannot vote on the first round at the convention. But then they can vote on the second, third etc.

    So that does help because it lowers the chances for one candidate to wrap up all the delegates before the convention because they would have to do it without the superdelegates. As a practical matter, in elections shaping up like this one, the dems are going to a brokered convention where it will take many rounds and much horsetrading- which will include the superdelegates.
     
    #15     Aug 21, 2019
  6. Correctomundo.

    Except not exactly the same thing. The electoral college seeks to preserve a minimum threshold of power for the states, as designed by the Founders and enshrined in the constitution.

    What does the superdelegate system protect? Oh, I see. The power of the political hacks at the DNC.

    Usually someone will pipe up and make some ballsy know-it-all statement about how political parties are private organizations and can do whatever they want. Ahh, okay. Personally I am not convinced that that is true when your process requires the government's power to be exercised to make it work...ie. state electoral systems and ballots. It would not surprise me to see constitutional principles such as one man/one vote applied to some of this at some point. What if for example, a party said that it would not allow any muslims on the ballot? We would find out mighty quickly that the constitution can be applied to certain "private party" actions where the government is asked to participate through the establishment of a public voting system.

    I will leave it there. but will leave my oar in the water for more on this in the years to come.
     
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    #16     Aug 21, 2019
  7. UsualName

    UsualName

    Bernie Sanders is not a democrat.
     
    #17     Aug 21, 2019
  8. Depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is - as you dems know.

    He is not really a democrat but he is registered as one for the purpose of running for president and being on the primary ballot.......to be withdrawn after he loses........as is his habit.
     
    #18     Aug 21, 2019
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  9. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

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    Hillary got millions more votes than Bernie
     
    #19     Aug 21, 2019
  10. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    When has superdelegates overruled the popular vote in a democrat primary?
     
    #20     Aug 21, 2019