Liquidation on low volume, high beta stocks

Discussion in 'Interactive Brokers' started by vzhig, Aug 21, 2020.

  1. ids

    ids

    Matt, broker cannot "make a forward-looking prediction whether it will retrace". This is quite a dangerous idea. If account lost money, it could easily lose more.
     
    #21     Aug 21, 2020
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  2. MattZ

    MattZ Sponsor

    Read what I said again.
    I said "it's very hard to look at the individual account, analyze the risk, and then make a forward-looking prediction whether it will retrace"

    In other words, it's impossible.
     
    #22     Aug 21, 2020
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  3. themickey

    themickey

    Welp his account is whipped cream now.
    pie_eating_getty.jpg
     
    #23     Aug 21, 2020
  4. Bad_Badness

    Bad_Badness

    Pump and Dump happens. It is a standard tactic. Your job is to not be on the wrong side. Know that it happens with certain stocks and other instruments. If it helps, I have been on the wrong side several times and the right side more times, so net I think I am probably ahead. I actually has a strategy for it that was abandoned for various reasons.
     
    #24     Aug 21, 2020
  5. Was not profitable enough? Or were there other reasons?
     
    #25     Aug 23, 2020
  6. Which is why TD is a poorly managed firm.
     
    #26     Aug 23, 2020
  7. old coot

    old coot

    kelb2.jpg After seeing mskl's post, I looked at a chart for KELYB. Seems the same sort of think happened August 11, price went from 18-78. so, unless you do absolutely no digging before you buy into a position, you would have had adequate warning that it COULD happen, because it HAD happened, less than 2 weeks ago.
    Stops, man, stops. Don't leave home without them.
     
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    #27     Aug 23, 2020
  8. JamesJ

    JamesJ

    I highly doubt that stops would have saved him... IBKR has "protective" algorithms that will reprice limit orders to "reasonable" levels. Even market order are capped. In such a stock this means you wont be able to get out aftee a volatility halt as they limit your buy order below current market price and only lift it higher aftee some time... You are at risk of missing the exit completely if it just runs from volatility halt to volatility halt.
     
    #28     Aug 23, 2020
  9. ggnn2020

    ggnn2020

    Sorry to know your loss. But this spike doesn't look like a price error? It lasted 1+ hour. Curious what happened exactly. This looks like the negative crude future back to March. Something must be wrong.
     
    #29     Aug 23, 2020
  10. Bad_Badness

    Bad_Badness

    Low predictability, low frequency , marginal edge. AND not scalable enough. Not a bread and butter for me, and that is what I was searching for.
     
    #30     Aug 23, 2020
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