Limit Down in ES ?!

Discussion in 'Trading' started by fluttrader, Oct 24, 2008.

  1. Yesterdays lows doesn't exactly look like a big deal. **Yawn**
     
    #71     Oct 24, 2008
  2. gangof4

    gangof4

    you might want to widen your stop! :)
     
    #72     Oct 24, 2008
  3. ha ha

    I got up this morning and it was already limit down - no position here.

    I don't know why the bids are sitting there - - must be nuts?
     
    #73     Oct 24, 2008
  4. GTS

    GTS

    That was my earlier point - if you want to buy the opening (or cover a short) then you should place an order well below the lock limit, just look at where SPY is trading to get a feel of where ES would be without the lock. Bidding 855.00 is stupid.
     
    #74     Oct 24, 2008
  5. When does the limit down end? Between 8-8:30 Chicago time right, but exactly when?
     
    #75     Oct 24, 2008
  6. sibrag

    sibrag

    That is the result of unwinding of the "carry trade" - due to near zero interest rates in Japan, in the 'good old days" big players borrowed in Japan, sold yen bought USD or EUR then played in international/commods markets. Now the opposite is happening. Unwinding their positions, thus going to cash - be it EUR USD - then buying JPY. So to complete the circle .... selling stocks (markets down) buying yen (strong yen). On the yen side, you also have locals, selling their international holdings, and also going back to yen.

    fwiw
     
    #76     Oct 24, 2008
  7. When the day session begins, 8:30am Chicago time. ES will gap down to -75 at the bell. We'll see what happens from there.
     
    #77     Oct 24, 2008
  8. this is the best definition of the carry trade I've seen. Thank you.

    Is it too long to go long Yen as a hedge?
    I'm currently short euro and long dollar but those aren't moving as fast as the Yen.

    I wish I had known about this carry trade many months ago. It's fascinating.
     
    #78     Oct 24, 2008
  9. SPY has been down over 9 percent

    on an overnight move

    fucking insane

    unbelievably dangerous market
     
    #79     Oct 24, 2008
  10. mskl

    mskl

    75 seems about right - right near the previous low.

    Keep an eye on SPY (Still trading)
     
    #80     Oct 24, 2008