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Discussion in 'Politics' started by Dr. Zhivodka, Feb 8, 2009.


  1. Luckily Obama's start out of the gates has the left already questioning his competency, and legitamcy and it's unllikely the revolution can occur without them.

    Here's a column you, (a lunatic right-wing hate monger), might
    appreciate. hell, even the lunactic left-wing stalinist might
    pick up some strategy tips (revisionist history, indeed):

    (Charles shouldn't expect another dinner invitation anytime soon)

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/29/AR2009012903444.html


    Outreach, Yes. Apology, No.
    We've Never Been Islam's Enemy

    By Charles Krauthammer
    Friday, January 30, 2009; Page A19

    Every new president flatters himself that he, kinder and gentler, is beginning the world anew. Yet, when Barack Obama in his inaugural address reached out to Muslims by saying "to the Muslim world, we seek a new way forward, based on mutual interest and mutual respect," his formulation was needlessly defensive and apologetic.

    Is it "new" to acknowledge Muslim interests and show respect to the Muslim world? Obama doesn't just think so, he said so again to millions in his al-Arabiya interview, insisting on the need to "restore" the "same respect and partnership that America had with the Muslim world as recently as 20 or 30 years ago."

    Astonishing. In these most recent 20 years -- the alleged winter of our disrespect of the Islamic world -- America did not just respect Muslims, it bled for them. It engaged in five military campaigns, every one of which involved -- and resulted in -- the liberation of a Muslim people: Bosnia, Kosovo, Kuwait, Afghanistan and Iraq.

    The two Balkan interventions -- as well as the failed 1992-93 Somalia intervention to feed starving African Muslims (43 Americans were killed) -- were humanitarian exercises of the highest order, there being no significant U.S. strategic interest at stake. In these 20 years, this nation has done more for suffering and oppressed Muslims than any nation, Muslim or non-Muslim, anywhere on Earth. Why are we apologizing?


    And what of that happy U.S.-Muslim relationship that Obama imagines existed "as recently as 20 or 30 years ago" that he has now come to restore? Thirty years ago, 1979, saw the greatest U.S.-Muslim rupture in our 233-year history: Iran's radical Islamic revolution, the seizure of the U.S. Embassy, the 14 months of America held hostage.

    Which came just a few years after the Arab oil embargo that sent the United States into a long and punishing recession. Which, in turn, was preceded by the kidnapping and cold-blooded execution by Arab terrorists of the U.S. ambassador in Sudan and his chargé d'affaires.

    This is to say nothing of the Marine barracks massacre of 1983, and the innumerable attacks on U.S. embassies and installations around the world during what Obama now characterizes as the halcyon days of U.S.-Islamic relations.

    Look. If Barack Obama wants to say, as he said to al-Arabiya, I have Muslim roots, Muslim family members, have lived in a Muslim country -- implying a special affinity that uniquely positions him to establish good relations -- that's fine. But it is both false and deeply injurious to this country to draw a historical line dividing America under Obama from a benighted past when Islam was supposedly disrespected and demonized.

    As in Obama's grand admonition: "We cannot paint with a broad brush a faith as a consequence of the violence that is done in that faith's name." Have "we" been doing that, smearing Islam because of a small minority? George W. Bush went to the Islamic Center in Washington six days after the Sept. 11 attacks, when the fires of Ground Zero were still smoldering, to declare "Islam is peace," to extend fellowship and friendship to Muslims, to insist that Americans treat them with respect and generosity of spirit.

    And America listened. In these seven years since Sept. 11 -- seven years during which thousands of Muslims rioted all over the world (resulting in the death of more than 100) to avenge a bunch of cartoons -- there's not been a single anti-Muslim riot in the United States to avenge the massacre of 3,000 innocents. On the contrary. In its aftermath, we elected our first Muslim member of Congress and our first president of Muslim parentage.

    "My job," says Obama, "is to communicate to the American people that the Muslim world is filled with extraordinary people who simply want to live their lives and see their children live better lives." That's his job? Do the American people think otherwise? Does he think he is bravely breaking new ground? George Bush, Condoleezza Rice and countless other leaders offered myriad expressions of that same universalist sentiment.

    Every president has the right to portray himself as ushering in a new era of this or that. Obama wants to pursue new ties with Muslim nations, drawing on his own identity and associations. Good. But when his self-inflation as redeemer of U.S.-Muslim relations leads him to suggest that pre-Obama America was disrespectful or insensitive or uncaring of Muslims, he is engaging not just in fiction but in gratuitous disparagement of the country he is now privileged to lead.

    Iran has already responded to the Obama overture. In perfect tune with Obama's defensiveness, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad declared that better relations might be possible -- after America apologized for 60 years of crimes against Iran. Note the 60 years. The mullahs are as mystified by Obama's pre-1979 (or 1989) good old days as I am.
     
    #31     Feb 10, 2009
  2. Mav88

    Mav88

    What are you talking about? he is and always was just a tool. The conflict will come when he may want to be more. Let's see how he handles Pelosi's liberal wish list on the spending bill, that will tell you a lot. If he sides with that he has tipped his hand as still the puppet. If he sides with the senate version he will piss off the left even more, they will feel betrayed.

    The revolution is already underway, you don't seem to understand american politics.
     
    #32     Feb 10, 2009
  3. Amerian politics should be a tug of war back to the center,
    and the worry was, that with the left's dominance of the house,
    senate and presidency, that tug of war would be overwelming
    be won by the left, and the red revolution could proceed.

    Fortunately, Obama's many gaffes out of the gates makes
    that less likely.


    (incidently, the earlier post was an attempt at sarcasm... I'll refrain from employing it. )
     
    #33     Feb 11, 2009
  4. Mav88

    Mav88

    The recipe for the american left is simple, slowly get the majority hooked on government thereby securing your power via elections. Obama is one of them, but he isn't the whole. The revolution is a slow but steady approach towards socialism.


    Take Obama's town hall, http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090211/ap_on_re_us/obama_homeless_woman

    That woman wants government to get her a car, a home, and a job. Obama was 'moved' by that and so are now the majority. It is now the government's job to get you work, food, shelter, health care, and a fucking car. It is obvious the left has won and it is actually easier in a democracy since the majority of people are stupid.

    The curious thing is that the american left has been promising all this shit since FDR, and many trillions later they have never delivered. Still people just feel better and that's all that seems to matter to them. You don't actually have to give the apes digital watches, just promise them digital watches.

    FDR, LBJ, all the lessons learned, and we are now about to add to it. Read the past to know where we are going...

    http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090204/OPINION01/902040324&imw=Y

    and now that Stalinists want to shut everyone up who dares point all this out, such as Limbaugh
     
    #34     Feb 11, 2009
  5. fhl

    fhl




    and the craziest thing is all the economists who are going along with this stimulus crap


    whether it's economics, physical sciences, whatever, just shows that ideology trumps truth Every Time
     
    #35     Feb 11, 2009
  6. Mav88

    Mav88

    Obama's latest gaffe: promising that Geithner had a detailed plan.

    The man is stumbling around, fast learning that campaign mode will not work when actually governing. It's Clinton II, and we all know what that lead to in 94.
     
    #36     Feb 11, 2009
  7. ==========================
    Frizin;
    Well personaly , i hope they stay away from the so called ''fairness doctrine''

    Not likely at all they could stop Rush Limbaugh/Judeo-Christian broadcasters; but dilution is a possibility, but hope not.

    For example the drive by media had a fit when Mr O' Reily [FOX]
    suggested President Barack throw water on reporter Helen Thomas.-Lol. Talking about her wicked witch remarks on quote ''so called terrorists being hit in Pakistan'' Unquote or accurate paraphrase of reporter Helen Thomas's disrespectful question.

    Typical media,against the war on terror, calling terrorists ''so called terorists'' IBD editorial called it ''Greatest Hits'' [hit songs, against the terrorists.]

    FOX really does seem to be fair & balanced;Dennis Miller sang a funny love song to reporter Helen Thomas -''Love song in Feb.''
    ===========================================
    Bottom line;

    Thou art fair,King Solomon said/sang, meaning thou art beautiful. [or fair].......................................................................

    :D
     
    #37     Feb 12, 2009
  8. #38     Feb 12, 2009


  9. I'm somewhat hoping the Leftists go through with it ...YOU WANT A FUCKING REVOLUTION!

    Here's some extraordinary information regarding this issue, you shouldn't expect NBC, NYT, or 99% of the liberal rags out there to report... (yes, I'm aware of the irony of my source)

    http://www.salon.com/opinion/paglia/2009/02/11/stimulus/

    A rocky first few weeks
    Obama sputters out of the gate -- but don't fear yet. Plus: Buxom foodies, frocks for the ages, and the eternal appeal of Mary McCarthy and Justin Timberlake.

    By Camille Paglia
    .....

    One of the nuggets I've gleaned from several radio sources is that Michigan Sen. Debbie Stabenow, who has been in the aggressive forefront of the campaign to reinstate the Fairness Doctrine, is married to Tom Athans, who works extensively with left-wing radio organizations and was once the executive vice-president of Air America, the liberal radio syndicate that, despite massive publicity from major media, has failed miserably to win a national audience. Stabenow's outrageous conflict of interest has of course been largely ignored by the prestige press, which should have been demanding that she recuse herself from all political involvement with this issue.
     
    #39     Feb 12, 2009
  10. I WANT RAGE!!!!!!!!!!


    RAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




    give the Idiot-Left the house, senate and presidency, and good god they will show themselves to be the principle-free fools they
    are
     
    #40     Feb 12, 2009