Like China trade deal news . The next 12 months when mkt's weak VIRUS NEWS

1957may10 · Apr 18, 2020

1957may10 said:
My point we will be OK .
Economy will be different. Remember 9/11 it’s not the same but very frustrating. We will be OK.
However life is tougher and tougher, but we have all skills to fight.
I am realistically optimistic for my 40 years in business
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1957may10 · Apr 18, 2020

I do not think you are afraid about what you will do in future.
Just stay healthy that all you need with your skills.

1957may10 · Apr 18, 2020

hafez50 said:
Get ready for positive VIRUS NEWS by shady sources every time the mkt weakens 5% or more. After Gileads hyped news yesterday wall street's on to the scam . Market weakens load long's and all of a sudden a vaccine is near hits the wire.No different than they played the China deal news 30 times over 18 months producing huge rally. This means you'll have to take short profits much quicker as holding longer term is very dangerous. So business down 10-20% doesn't matter as wall street only cares about the future. So the future always gets stretched out futher and further . It seems its not possible to have a regular 6-12 months 30% plus bear mkt anymore .
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Well, look at signals markets will got some juice
Economy sucks...
We need to buy local, support ours local services...
I do.. and told my relatives to do
What else we can do?

1957may10 · Apr 18, 2020

S2007S said:
I'm actually looking at it that the fed will eventually print enough trillions to get everything back in order. Now Once that happens, and everything is fine and dandy (this will probably be in as little as 6 months too maybe 18 months) i will have to say that going forward nothing and I MEAN ABSOLUTELY NOTHING will ever take these markets down ever again. What I'm saying is that if a pandemic that has left the worldwide economy at a complete standstill can't stop stocks from collapsing into the abyss, nothing can. I honestly don't think anything greater than a worldwide pandemic can place markets under stress especially when the fed has complete control and can literally bankroll anything it wants. If 22million+++++++ jobs lost in only 4 weeks cant collapse a market 40-50% in a month nothing will. Think about 10+ years of job growth gone in 4 weeks!!!!!! That is staggering....that news alone would knock markets straight down 50% in a month, maybe even more if this happened without intervention. And when unemployment numbers slow in the next few weeks the markets will take that has a gigantic positive and move 3-5% up in a week. We all know how frightening the economic numbers are going to be that the markets will brush it right off and move higher and when GDP is down 12% vs the drop of 19% they predict or whatever they predict, markets will zoom higher. So this economic news being utterly disgraceful in the next year will be completely spun around in a positive light, they will say it cannot get any worse than this and up the markets will move. Im telling you watch their ploy and how everything will be spun.
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S2007S said:
I'm actually looking at it that the fed will eventually print enough trillions to get everything back in order. Now Once that happens, and everything is fine and dandy (this will probably be in as little as 6 months too maybe 18 months) i will have to say that going forward nothing and I MEAN ABSOLUTELY NOTHING will ever take these markets down ever again. What I'm saying is that if a pandemic that has left the worldwide economy at a complete standstill can't stop stocks from collapsing into the abyss, nothing can. I honestly don't think anything greater than a worldwide pandemic can place markets under stress especially when the fed has complete control and can literally bankroll anything it wants. If 22million+++++++ jobs lost in only 4 weeks cant collapse a market 40-50% in a month nothing will. Think about 10+ years of job growth gone in 4 weeks!!!!!! That is staggering....that news alone would knock markets straight down 50% in a month, maybe even more if this happened without intervention. And when unemployment numbers slow in the next few weeks the markets will take that has a gigantic positive and move 3-5% up in a week. We all know how frightening the economic numbers are going to be that the markets will brush it right off and move higher and when GDP is down 12% vs the drop of 19% they predict or whatever they predict, markets will zoom higher. So this economic news being utterly disgraceful in the next year will be completely spun around in a positive light, they will say it cannot get any worse than this and up the markets will move. Im telling you watch their ploy and how everything will be spun.
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Exactly!

1957may10 · Apr 18, 2020

1957may10 said:
Exactly!
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When we at war and this is even worse, any positive news will be treated as big advantage.
Good example is remdisevir treatment.

1957may10 · Apr 18, 2020

1957may10 said:
When we at war and this is even worse, any positive news will be treated as big advantage.
Good example is remdisevir treatment.
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I hade to say it but at this point markets shrubs off all the deaths

noddyboy · Apr 18, 2020

hafez50 said:
And Japan has printed like drunken sailors to done of 205% of gdp and look what good it did them? Market down 55% from 31 yrs ago. Were heading to crazy debt levels.I think over time we'll just grind around and die over the yrs .
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They have an aging population. That is different. We have a virus that is making us younger.

hafez50 · Apr 18, 2020

noddyboy said:
They have an aging population. That is different. We have a virus that is making us younger.
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Who cares about an aging population there gov't is buying stocks . Our debt load will be equal to theirs soon . the truth is the whole world is swimming in massive debt. Much of the last 20-30 yrs of miracle econ growth has been debt and more debt . That could all start to unwind . i expect to see many bankruptcies during in over the coming months. Its time to pay the piper .

noddyboy · Apr 19, 2020

hafez50 said:
Who cares about an aging population there gov't is buying stocks . Our debt load will be equal to theirs soon . the truth is the whole world is swimming in massive debt. Much of the last 20-30 yrs of miracle econ growth has been debt and more debt . That could all start to unwind . i expect to see many bankruptcies during in over the coming months. Its time to pay the piper .
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Since when do we ever pay back? Why do we have to pay?

Ethilaloth · Apr 19, 2020

Actually the situation with the virus is still quite serious and most discussed all over the world, but it seems to me that the situation in the market has stabilized a little bit, at least for now, because now all the countries impose certain restrictions to some extent for people, small and big businesses, government institutions, so everybody suffers losses to some extent. I think that the next serious wave will not take long, but in order to make further predictions it is necessary to study the situation in the market in detail and assess the indicators by the value of a large number of assets, because now the correlation between them is especially clear, because the competition has also intensified to some extent - it is not clear who will be able to get out of this situation and who will not...