Life after 50

Discussion in 'Health and Fitness' started by Pekelo, Mar 6, 2019.

  1. luisHK

    luisHK

    #31     Apr 16, 2019
  2. luisHK

    luisHK

    Lots of people now squat more than Coleman, some look much better at his age, although powerlifters are probably more prone to hips and knee replacement than the rest of the population. It is not clear he got messed up from lifting heavy, as apparently he was also doing a lot of volume at lower intensity and there are lots of ways to mes oneself up. But yes he is famous among bodybuilders for his taste for heavy lifts.

    “So you guy’s still wanna be like me, you still want to have the same work ethic is I had. Well as you can see I’m 8 X Mr Olympia and I can’t walk. I endured an 11 hour major back surgery last Tuesday. Do I have any regrets?, if I had a chance to do it all over again would I change anything? Yes if I had a chance to do it all over again I would change one thing. That is when I squatted that 800lbs I would do 4 reps instead of 2, that is my only regret in my career. Those 2 reps I did still haunts me today because I know I had 4 in me but the coward in me only did 2. That is my only regret.” – Ronnie Coleman

    https://liftn.com/back-surgery-ronn...est-regret-800lb-squat-done-4-reps-instead-2/
     
    #32     Apr 16, 2019
  3. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    And we shall see if they can walk without assist when they are 54. The point of this thread is celebrating life after 50 and help others to reach it while living a moderate life. Squatting 800 lbs is sure not a way to do it, but I might be wrong. Coleman definitely screwed up his training and life, we can only disagree by doing what.

    Do you think our bodies were made to life that heavy at that age? But thanks for the input, I wish Nick Best a healthier future than Coleman's.

    Now here is a 71 year old power lifter:

     
    #33     Apr 16, 2019
  4. luisHK

    luisHK

    Thanks for the link, it's worth looking up Louis Simmons, the owner of Westside Barbell, who's been coaching dozens of powerlifting world record holders for decades and personally kept on juicing and lifting heavy weights his whole life (he must be in his late 60s now). If he is to be believed he's in a better shape than most of us.
    Not sure how beneficial or harmful is lifting heavy weights, but I've noticed that for slim/skinny people the idea is often terrifying, and that works for doctors as well. From experience I got more often back issues (have been carrying an herniated disc for over a decade) playing tennis and golf than lifting heavy (heavy for me at least, i still love single and doubles but strength is hard to regain). It took me several years and many many visits to the doctors to deal with back, shoulder and knee injuries from playing golf and tennis before I decided to start lifting again (after 14 years break), because a skinny doctor treating me for sciatica, 7 or 8 years after I last lifted (didn't do much sports all that time) told me I would go straight to surgery if I ever played with 200kgs again (what I squatted younger at 83kg bodyweight, also what I squat now but much heavier :( hoping that by the age of Nick Best i'll have improved, rather than go around in a wheelchair ).
    Than later after starting to lift again, while my knee (meniscus degenaration, from tennis and golf apparently) was getting better after starting to squat and deadlift again, another skinny doctor who had seen the knee earlier advised me to rather go jogging - it didn't matter I could squat without pain yet would scream if my feet bumped into anything, like a stone on a road:(
    But sure freak injuries do happen when lifting free weights, deadlift is particularly scary (fwiw after getting hurt a couple of times since lifting again doing conventional dl I switched to sumo, which puts less stress on the lower back, and decided to deadlift roughly the same weights I squat only. Every minor DL injury meant a long stop and huge step back in training, and I read about several lifters who had terrible back injuries from DL. There are also freak squat injuries but they have usually to do with the knees rather than the back - although it's easy to imagine one breaking his neck while squatting without safety bars or strong spotters).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louie_Simmons
     
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    #34     Apr 16, 2019
  5. I respect anyone who takes the time to try and improve themselves, be they young or old. People who train and lift professionally can't really be judged in the same light as we average gym rats. They are driven to break and set records. There's a price to pay for that similar to any other professional athlete. The rest of us have to get smart as we age. Setting PR's becomes dangerous and silly at some point. Injury can knock you out of the game completely and some movement just aren't worth the risk. Muscles may get sore and take longer to recover, but what really kicks your ass are joints and tendons. Add it all up and we need to use our heads as we do our best to maintain our physical fitness, and i have always said the best antidepressant is a regular gym routine. None of us can outrun the grim reaper, but we can stare the fucker down for a while longer.
     
    #35     Apr 16, 2019
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  6. ElCubano

    ElCubano

    Yes I agree. I am going to stop running this year. I can feel it my knees. Runners high and pushing is not worth it. Peace.
     
    #36     Apr 16, 2019
  7. I've heard that Ken Cooper is probably responsible for more knee replacement surgeries than any other single person. :D
     
    #37     Apr 16, 2019
  8. eurusdzn

    eurusdzn

    I will say one thing.
    When young I played about 15 years of basketball year round.
    My plant knee to jump "one legged" was my right leg.
    Never injured a knee before, during or after the 15 years b-ball so all things being equal....well, they are.
    My right knee is significantly worse than my left.
    IMO , for me, it was more the ballistic , impulse of jump that wore one knee down more.
    Running is symetrical.
    Weights, a smoother , steady stress is a good thing but i could not lift a lot of weight.
    My knee cross section/ circumfrance is large. I bet it is as big as some of those beasts.
    I couldnt load it like they did if I wanted to.
     
    #38     Apr 16, 2019
  9. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    Here is my trick: I only jog uphill. More workout in less time and better for the knees. Coming down would be a killer on the knees, but I come down backwards. (that is my copyrighted move) I might look silly, but my knees are thanking me.
     
    #39     Apr 16, 2019
  10. i don't care if you can deadlift 500lbs, i don't care.

    make it 550lbs! who cares>

    bench 300, big wow!



    this is what its all about..
     
    #40     Apr 17, 2019