Liberals posting their L's

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Tsing Tao, Jan 20, 2022.

  1. I don't listen to musicians for medical information.
    Actually I now only listen to conspiracy theories. [​IMG]

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    #41     Jan 29, 2022
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    Amidst many subscribers dropping, multiple artists leaving, billions in lost market value and Spotify promising to put warning label on Podcasts with Covid misinformation -- we now have Joe Rogan crawling on his knees promising to "do better" in not spreading misinformation.

    Joe Rogan Backs Down, A Bit; Promises To “Do Better”
    #42     Jan 31, 2022
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    #43     Jan 31, 2022
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    #44     Jan 31, 2022
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  5. ''When republicans lose, they accept it, reflect on it and come back stronger."

    #45     Jan 31, 2022
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  6. I dont get the whole Joe Rogan thing.... he is a fucking comedian who also hosted a show where people ate bull testicles....

    the fact that there is a segment of the population he chooses to get their advice from him shows how stupid this country has become... like who listens to actors and comedians for medical advice??
    #46     Jan 31, 2022
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    Let's check out the bizarre lies Joe Rogan is pushing about Covid...

    Joe Rogan: Four claims from his Spotify podcast fact-checked

    Joe Rogan has been criticised for helping spread misinformation on his podcast.

    Spotify reportedly paid $100m (£75m) in 2020 for rights to The Joe Rogan Experience, which is the streaming service's top podcast. It is reportedly downloaded almost 200 million times a month.

    On the show, the US broadcaster hosts a wide variety of guests who discuss their views on a range of topics - but some episodes have featured false and misleading claims.

    Here are four of them fact-checked.

    Claim: A vaccine can alter your genes
    Mr Rogan said: "This is not a vaccine, this is essentially a gene therapy." But this is not true.

    None of the Covid vaccines change your genetic material or DNA - essentially the recipe book containing the instructions of how to build your body.

    The vaccines made by Pfizer and Moderna harness a different molecule called messenger RNA.

    If DNA is the blueprint, RNA is the messenger, carrying instructions to your cells.

    In the case of the Covid vaccine, the message to your cells is to turn the RNA into a piece of the virus's spike protein.

    That's what fires your immune system up to start producing antibodies and other cells to fight off the virus.

    When the message has been received, the RNA from the virus is broken down and disposed of.

    It doesn't interact with your own genetic material at all.

    Claim: Ivermectin can cure Covid
    This claim was made on an episode last year featuring Bret Weinstein, an American author and professor of biology, who said: "Ivermectin alone is capable of driving this pathogen to extinction."

    BBC Reality Check looked at a series of research papers claiming to show the effectiveness of this drug in treating Covid.

    Many were very low quality, and in some cases the data had been clearly manipulated.

    If you look only at rigorously carried out studies, there is no evidence of the drug's effectiveness.

    Campaigners often cherry-pick positive examples and ignore the fact that many countries which relied heavily on ivermectin, like Brazil and Peru, had some of the worst death tolls from the virus.

    The world-leading experts on reviewing medical evidence, Cochrane, concluded based on just these reliable trials that there was "insufficient evidence" to recommend the drug.

    Claim: If you get vaccinated after having had Covid, you're at greater risk of harmful side effects
    One of Mr Rogan's most controversial guests has been the virologist Robert Malone.

    Mr Malone was banned from Twitter in December last year for violating its Covid misinformation policies. He appeared on Mr Rogan's podcast shortly afterwards.

    Among the misleading claims made in this podcast episode was one suggesting people who are vaccinated after having Covid-19 are at greater risk of adverse side effects.

    Following his appearance, more than 270 doctors and healthcare professionals signed a letter to Spotify, calling for Covid misinformation to be addressed.

    Robust studies so far have shown that a very small number of conditions - blood clots, heart inflammation - are slightly more likely after certain vaccines, although are still very rare.

    In one UK study, researchers found that vaccine after effects were more common in those who already had Covid.

    However, this study only looked at mild after effects, such as fatigue, chills and headaches.

    Claim: For young people, the health risks from the vaccine are greater than from Covid
    Mr Rogan said: "I don't think it's true there's an increased risk of myocarditis from people catching Covid-19 that are young, versus the risk from the vaccine."

    Myocarditis is an inflammation of the heart muscle that has been raised as a rare side effect of vaccination.

    However, research has shown that this condition, which can lead to shortness of breath, chest pain and in very rare cases to heart failure, is considerably more common after a Covid infection than after vaccination. - as is also the case with blood clots.

    It also appears that cases of myocarditis post-vaccination are generally milder and shorter-lasting.

    Mr Rogan later corrected himself, but has made several other comments suggesting young people shouldn't be vaccinated as they are at low risk from Covid-19.

    It's certainly the case that younger people are at much lower risk of serious illness from Covid, but they are not at zero risk of developing complications.

    Covid itself has been found to be a bigger risk than the vaccines in every age group for which they have been approved.

    The vaccines, particularly after a booster, can also reduce your chances of catching the virus and therefore passing it on to others.
    #47     Feb 1, 2022
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    Covid misinformation has caused the deaths of tens of thousands of people across the globe. Joe Rogan should be ashamed of his complicity with these deaths. Has he no shame? Or decency?
    #49     Feb 1, 2022
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    Science Vs podcast takes on the Joe Rogan Experience and others, vowing to fact-check what Spotify won’t

    Popular award-winning science podcast Science Vs will dedicate its shows to fact-checking Joe Rogan and others on Spotify who it believes promote misinformation regarding vaccines, in a swipe at Spotify’s lenient reaction to Rogan’s controversial interview with a vaccine skeptic.

    Spotify owns both Science Vs and the Joe Rogan Experience podcasts, and the two creators of the Science Vs said that Spotify’s decision to stop short of sanctioning Rogan’s podcast did not go far enough, calling its support of Rogan “a slap in the face.”

    “Until Spotify implements stronger methods to stop the spread of misinformation on the platform, we will no longer be making new Science Vs episodes, except those intended to counteract misinformation being spread on Spotify,” podcast host Wendy Zukerman and editor Blythe Terrell wrote in a letter to Spotify chief executive Daniel Elk on Monday.

    Science Vs is produced by Gimlet, which Spotify purchased in 2019, while Joe Rogan’s show was acquired directly by Spotify in 2020, in a deal worth more than $100 million. The Joe Rogan Experience is Spotify’s most popular podcast.

    In the face of mounting criticism, Spotify unveiled measures to combat misinformation, choosing to publish the company’s content rules and direct listeners to “data-driven facts and up-to-date information” about COVID-19 before the start of content that addresses the pandemic, instead of censoring information.

    “We know we have a critical role to play in supporting creator expression while balancing it with the safety of our users,” Ek wrote in an open letter. “In that role, it is important to me that we don’t take on the position of being content censor while also making sure that there are rules in place and consequences for those who violate them.”

    The former Fear Factor host and stand-up comedian Joe Rogan has more than 11 million daily listeners on his podcast.

    The Interview
    For the uninitiated, the controversy began after one of the earliest pioneers of the mRNA vaccine, the virologist Robert Malone, went on the show on Dec. 30 to tout anti-vaccine sentiment, calling mRNA vaccines ineffective and harmful. By chance, the day before the interview with Joe Rogan, Twitter had permanently suspended Malone, citing "repeated violations of our COVID-19 misinformation policy," after he made tweets alleging that an unnamed “Israeli scientist,” Pfizer, and the Israeli government were colluding to keep adverse effects from the vaccine from the public.

    After the podcast with Joe Rogan was published, 260 scientists and medical professionals signed an open letter urging Spotify to “immediately establish a clear and public policy to moderate misinformation on its platform,” citing the dangerous ramifications of promoting scientific mistrust and calling for more accountability from Spotify.

    Folk-rockers Neil Young and Joni Mitchell also publicly announced they would be pulling their music from Spotify to protest Rogan’s program—moves that caused Spotify’s share price to dip last week, before reversing its losses on Monday.

    Rogan, who had been silent during the media storm, broke his silence Sunday night, posting a video onto his Instagram defending himself. He argued he hosts health experts from across the medical spectrum, including CNN chief medical correspondent Sanjay Gupta.

    Rogan did concede that he could “make sure I’ve researched these topics” more and “maybe try harder to get people with differing opinions” on his show right after speakers with controversial takes.

    Spotify did not immediately return Fortune’s request for comment.
    #50     Feb 1, 2022