Liberals Now Calling For Obama Birth Cert

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by bugscoe, Dec 28, 2010.

    Posted on December 27, 2010 at 8:06pm by Meredith Jessup

    Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie recently announced that he was offended by the so-called “birther” movement and would try to publicly release President Barack Obama’s birth certificate — whether the White House wants him to or not — in an attempt to finally put the debate to rest:

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    “It’s not up to the President. It has nothing to do with the President,” Abercrombie told CNN’s Ed Henry Monday. “This has to do with the people of Hawaii who love him. People who loved his mom and dad. This has to do with respect to the office of the president that he’s entitled to and it has to do with the respect that every single person’s mother and father are entitled to.”

    As the movement calling for the president’s birth certificate has gained some ground, MSNBC’s Chris Matthews fanned the flames of the debate Monday as he encouraged President Obama to send him a copy of the birth certificate and put an end to the “manufactured controversy once and for all:
  2. Odumbo is also alleged to have given up his US Citizenship to accept free education in Indonesia as a Muslim. Even if he later regained his citizenship, it would be as a "naturalized" citizen, no longer "natural born"... and thus ineligible to be POTUS.

    We gonna get to see the sealed records about this issue? (And just WHY are such records "sealed"?)
  3. A child can not give up their US citizenship.
  4. “Why has the president himself not demanded that they put out the initial documents?”
  5. Because legally Hawaii only releases the COLB that Obama has provided,thats all they give.You don't have the option to request or demand any other birth certificates.
  6. And why would Matthews fan the flames of such a silly thing? He wants the issue, that's why. The left always wants to give the illusion that they maintain the intellectual high ground. The birthers are a gift to the left as it's an easy argument to make when asking, do you really want these dopes,(Birthers), in charge?
    The issue has been losing traction, so Chris has to dig it up and get things going the the new campaign season, which is only a week away. The blatant manipulation of the unwashed masses is just so sad it's not even entertaining anymore.

  7. The previous (Republican) Governor already said she verified that Obama was born in Hawaii.This guy might try to get around Hawaiian law but even it he can get the original publicly released birthers still wont believe it.Birthers have a vested interest in holding to their position at all costs,more evidence will simply make them fight harder.I feel sorry for the doctor who delivered Obama,birthers will make that guys life a living hell trying to prove he is part of the conspiracy
  8. Arnie


    Wow. I think the Gov may have opened a can of worms. I bet this is the last you hear about the Gov producing a long form BC.

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  9. Why has Odumbo allegedly spent >$3 Million to prevent records from being disclosed and "sealed"?
  10. Desperation: WND touts birther claim made on "pro-white" program at "white supremacist" conference

    June 14, 2010 11:31 am ET by Media Matters staff

    WorldNetDaily, one of the loudest voices pushing the bogus story that Barack Obama does not have a legitimate birth certificate, is now touting a birther claim first made on a "pro-white" radio program at a conference of "white supremacist."

    In a June 10 article headlined, "Hawaii elections clerk: Obama not born here," WND's Joe Kovacs wrote that Tim Adams, "who worked as a senior elections clerk for the city and county of Honolulu in 2008 is making the stunning claim Barack Obama was definitely not born in Hawaii as the White House maintains, and that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Obama does not even exist in the Aloha State." WND added that "People started to pay attention this week after he was briefly interviewed by James Edwards, host of a weekly radio show on WLRM Radio in Memphis, Tenn." Kovacs wrote a follow-up article on Adams, touting how "WND's original report about Adams' claims has already been made into a YouTube video, getting thousands of hits."

    WND, however, makes no mention that Adams made the claim while appearing on a "pro-white" radio program hosted by white nationalist James Edwards at a conference of "white supremacist."

    James Edwards says that on June 5, he broadcasted his radio program The Political Cesspool "at the 2010 Council of Conservative Citizens National Conference." The CofCC similarly states that Edwards broadcasted live from its event, and includes links to a recording of the show. According to Edwards, "in attendance" was Tim Adams, who made his birther claim on-air.

    The Council of Conservative Citizens is described by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) as a "white supremacist" "hate group," and by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) as having a "white supremacy, white separatism" ideology. The Council states on its website that they "oppose all efforts to mix the races of mankind, to promote non-white races over the European-American people through so-called 'affirmative action' and similar measures, to destroy or denigrate the European-American heritage, including the heritage of the Southern people, and to force the integration of the races."

    The Political Cesspool website states: "We represent a philosophy that is pro-White ... We wish to revive the White birthrate above replacement level fertility and beyond to grow the percentage of Whites in the world relative to other races." The ADL and SPLC have both criticized Edwards and The Political Cesspool. The SPLC writes that Edwards "has probably done more than any of his contemporaries on the American radical right to publicly promote neo-Nazis, Holocaust deniers, raging anti-Semites and other extremists."

    Other guests that appeared on the show with Adams included "white supremacist" Sam Dickson; "white supremacist" Paul Fromm; and Derek Black, the son of former Klan leader Don Black and host of "weekly shows on the Stormfront Internet radio site, where he also was a webmaster." Stormfront, which has streamed Political Cesspool, describes itself as a "community of White Nationalists."

    Edwards wrote on his blog that he "introduced Tim Adams to the world," and brought the story to WorldNetDaily. Edwards wrote: "We have been swamped with media inquiries ever since Mr. Adams appeared on our show last weekend. In working in cooperation with Joe Kovacs, Executive News Editor at World Net Daily, the following story has now been published." Edwards then linked to Kovacs' June 10 story.

    The backing behind Adams' claim is so extreme that even the right-wing message board Free Republic states that it pulled threads related to Adams because the source of the video "is a group called The Council of Conservative Citizens. This is NOT a Conservative group, do not be fooled by the name. This group is a front group for a neo-Nazi group known as the National Alliance and is associated with Stormfront."

    So why is WorldNetDaily pushing a claim made on a "pro-white" radio program at a "white supremacist" conference?
    #10     Dec 28, 2010