Funny old definition of unprovoked. How about the blocade of Gaza - is that not provocation ? There are something like 5 million Palestinian refugees in the middle east. Might have something to do with attitudes towards Israel.
Com'on Z, you can't really be that naive. Having a debate is one thing, but taking such an absurd position just for the sake of being contrary ends up in a pointless folly. Are you really that much in need of attention that you'll be argumentative just for the sake of it?
He's not naive, he is trolling, he is not trying to make sense or have an honest discussion, his objective is to irritate the crap out of his opponents. He knows perfectly well that children die during wars, that because German children died in WWII does not mean the allies were wrong. He is not stupid, he is not naive, he is just a troll.
You mean in response to a barrage of rockets, right? No, the blockade was not provocation, the rockets were, the blockade (with food, fuel and medicine getting through) was the best thing they could hope for. Any other nation on earth would have wiped out half the population a long time ago.
Com'on CO, if the roles were reversed, you wouldn't have a problem with a technologically superior force killing American children unnecessarily? Both sides are in the wrong on this one, which is something that isn't rationalized away by anyone but a primitive... So who did you root for, the invaded or the invaders? You do know that the conquered country that fought back were terrorists and insurgents, right? <img src=http://chasness.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/red_dawn.jpg>
Switzerland, Sweden and every other peace loving nation would have wiped out half the population of the Palestinian resistance? If Russia were doing what Israel is doing...wait, didn't they do this already many times, we always took the side of the weaker nation? However in this case, we turn a blind eye to the weak, and blindly support the stronger nation running roughshod against a weaker group of people...
An honest discussion would find the wrong in what Israel is doing. A dishonest discussion would claim that one side is completely innocent and the other side completely guilty, and finding nothing at all wrong with the killing of innocent children who just happen to be on the weaker side of the equation...
Well, recognizing that you don't give a shit about children and are obsessed with Israel/US bashing would probably be a good start of an honest discussion...between you and your psychiatrist.
In the past I would have argued with zzz on behalf of Israel. I used to support Isreal. I used to argue with wael all the time. But, you know what - even though I think zzz philosophy is flawed and his reasoning weak. I can no longer muster the strength to publically support Isreal. Go zzz you show them.. when you support cultural relativism to get your way in the States - you are going to get in back when it comes to Palis vs Isreal. I know longer plan to make a distinction between right and wrong - just and unjust. Its all good right? - I can't judge culture. (Except its ok to say White Christians suck - so white jews must suck too.) Go palis.