Liberal Fascism: A Discussion

Discussion in 'Politics' started by bugscoe, Oct 22, 2009.

  1. Liberal Fascism: A Discussion
    Posted by Warrior
    Monday, October 19th at 4:38PM EDT

    Liberal Fascism: A Discussion of the book by Jonah Goldberg

    Intro and Chapter One

    Jonah Goldberg repeatedly, almost ad nauseum, provides caveats that he is not calling any contemporary (liberal) figure a genocidal dictator, a Nazi, a murderer or a rascist. I’m only going to say it once. I’m reviewing the precepts contained in an important book. If I think someone is a Nazi or Nazi-like, I won’t hesitate to say so. However, it is not to be inferred from the following comments and I won’t waste my time responding to anyone who mistakenly sees themselves or their hero described herein.

    Goldberg’s book was copyrighted in 2007 which means it was being written during the heart of the G.W. Bush years. Mr. Obama had barely come on the scene and is only mentioned by name twice in the book. Yet, Goldberg not only nails him cold, but the author’s comments are prescient as to the entire playbook of the leftist agenda. I guess with Saul Alinski’s “Rules for Radicals” around it’s not so hard to pinpoint modern leftist political strateeegery (as Limbaugh puts it), but the accuracy of what came to pass only a few short months after the book’s release is uncanny.

    Take this from page 14: “…liberalism today sees no realm of human life that is beyond significance…”, i.e. the post-Vietnam (in the U.S.) “everything is political” leftist meme. As examples, he suggests further, “Sports, entertainment, your inner motives and outer appearance, all have political salience for liberal fascists.” Almost a Nostradamian take on the Rush-NFL mess.

    Obama is as predictable as the sunrise to Goldberg. Later on in the same paragraph, he states, “…liberal fascists speak of a “Third Way” between right and left where all good things go together and all hard choices are “false choices”. This is almost verbatim of Obama’s oft repeated accusation that we are dealing with “false dichotomies” when it comes to difficult trade-offs.

    On page 15 Goldberg nails the left’s elevation of statism/fascism to the level of a secular religion complete with quasi-theological jargon. Hillary’s “politics of meaning” and Obama’s “Hope and Change” are obvious examples. If there were any doubts about this, Obama’s constant deification by the minion media and portrayal as some kind of latter day religious saint come to save us from ourselves should be enough to dispel it.

    Speaking of syndicalism and the importance of Sorel’s myth-making as a means of motivating and captivating the masses, he again describes the NPR crowd with amazing accuracy. From page 38 he reveals that “…a small cadre of professional intellectual radicals - who were prepared to reject compromise, parliamentary politics, and anything else that smacked of incremental reform – were indispensable to any revolutionary struggle.” Does that sound eerily like the current playlist of healthcare reform, the stimulus package, cash for clunkers and everything else this administration is trying to cram down our throats without “compromise” or “incremental reform”? It should. It could easily be a contemporaneous description of Obama, Emanuel, Pelosi, Reid, et al in some sort of wild-eyed socialist planning session.

    Moving on to page 43, Goldberg describes another favorite weapon in the libs arsenal of national self-destruction, “…its’ tendency to maintain a permanent sense of crisis. Crisis is routinely identified as a core mechanism of fascism because it short-circuits debate and democratic deliberation. Hence all fascistic movements commit considerable energy to prolonging a heightened state of emergency.” Rahm Emanuel call your office.

    Citing the program of Mussolini’s Fasci di Combattimento, page 46 looks like a talking points memo e-mailed from the DNC to its’ unholy minions yesterday. Included are, briefly, enactment of a minimum wage, strict regulations on land use, a huge tax on capital, the nationalization of many industries, confiscation of the wealth of the church and on and on. Coincidence? Somehow I don’t think so.

    Moving along to page 51, when describing the doctrinal Fascist economics which Mussolini was finally called upon to put on paper, that too had a strangely familiar and contemporary ring. Goldberg states, “…it looked fairly recognizable as just another left-wing campaign to nationalize industry, or regulate it to the point where the distinction was hardly a difference.” Pay close attention to this latter description. It really doesn’t have to meet some lawyerly burden of proof to be a gubmint take-over, it only has to result in ultimate gubmint control. You can call it “a co-op”, “ a single payer system”, “the public option” or “Santa Claus”, but if it results in gubmint control it really doesn’t matter, now does it?

    What a huge indictment of modern day liberalism – and we’ve only covered the Intro and Chapter One of Goldberg’s Liberal Fascism. One could conclude from this brief discourse that modern liberalism is far more deserving of the moniker “Fascist” than almost any brand of conservative. Stay tuned next week for Chapter Two, “Adolph Hitler: Man of the Left”.
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  3. Ricter


    Can't really discuss this. You have chopped pieces out, added your own slant (eg. "gubmint"), and there is no easily discernable argument per se. Looks like you have gotten your hands on a polemic.

    Of course, we can comment on this ad nauseum.
  4. The practice of demagoguery is not a discussion.

  5. It's an article, copied as it was written. None of the comments are mine.
  6. Immediately following is the bio from the person who generated the OP post...

    Can you say "DAMAGED?"

    Oh, and this is not an ad hominem attack. Far from it. Simply goes to illustrate how the right wing has gone so extreme. I am not saying the blog from warrior is false because warrior is clinically stupid, the blog is filled with logical fallacy after logical fallacy, because a stupid person resorts to this method of demagoguery...

    Moderate conservatives are what we need, but of course moderate conservative do not appeal to the angry white male klannsh...


    Registered: 5 years, 0 months.


    I was born in the Salvation Army Home and Hospital for unwed mothers. I became a ward of the state at age 18 days old. By the Grace of God, I was adopted at age two and a half by an educated, Christian couple.

    I therefore have a healthy respect for counselors and social workers. I do not appreciate the left wing socialist flavor of the national organizations which represent us. I believe that such political views marginalize us and, basically, make us look like a bunch of kooks. And such a popular perception is, indeed, a hindrance and detrimental to what we do.

    I am a therapist with graduate degrees in clinical and counseling psychology. This is my third career. I was an electronics technician in the Navy and for some years thereafter. I then became a contruction/landscape laborer for many years.

    I am recovering from alcohol and drug dependence, as well as major depressive disorder. In the course of my life I have been homeless, lived in the street, lived in shelters for men, been in jail many times and lost everything I owned twice…

    The ONLY way I recovered and created a healthy, happy life was by trusting in the beneficence of God and taking responsibility for myself. Yes, I did receive temporary gubmint assistance, mostly in the form of financial aid for college. And, since I qualify for the ADA in two ways, I easily could have signed up for a long-term gubmint program and waited in line with my hand out. However, that is not how I was raised.

    Instead, I worked two and three jobs, went to school at night, sacrificed, delayed gratification and advanced spiritually, emotionally and materially. As I said, it’s the ONLY way.

    Permenant dependence on ANYTHING, especially the gubmint, robs people of their souls. Also, I truly believe the parable of the talents will indeed come to pass in the hereafter. We will answer for what we have done, or not done, on earth.

    Now, by the Grace of God, I am married, have a nice home and a reasonably happy life. Heck, I was even able to take flying lessons and solo an airplane — one of my earliest childhood dreams. I am a member of a muti-racial, inner-city church.

    As can be deduced from my bio, I believe gubmint is necessary and useful, as long as it is kept in its’ place. Like my old daddy used to say about fire, “It’s a wonderful servant, but a terrible master.”

    “You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves.” ———- Abraham Lincoln

  7. TGregg


    The feds are setting the pay of 7 large american corporations:
  8. Ricter


  9. Ricter


    Ah, ok, my bad. It's a blog on a book. My comments go to the blogger, then.
    #10     Oct 22, 2009