Let's think about the devil for a moment.....

Discussion in 'Religion and Spirituality' started by themickey, Jul 9, 2023.

  1. Darc

    Darc

    How you doin Mickey? Been filled with the Holy Spirit yet?
     
    #21     Jul 16, 2023
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  2. themickey

    themickey

    The missus came home with two bottles of 58% alcohol Bundy, that's gotta be getting ready to be filled with holy spirit.
    Bible says "Be filled with the spirit" so will do as am told.

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    #22     Jul 16, 2023
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  3. DblArrow

    DblArrow

    What does it matter to you? What is wrong with live and let live? Do you feel like a better human being cause you can knock and degrade what someone else might think or believe? Jealous? Maybe it's just that you are a jerk and think that everyone must believe what ever it is that you believe? What does it matter to you if someone believes in the God of the bible? They at least are not trying to force their beliefs on you. As many Muslims would do. Sure the proselytize, their bible tells them that they have something others do not and wish to share it.
     
    #23     Jul 17, 2023
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  4. albion

    albion

    Actually, a not insignificant minority of Christians (similar to a minority of Muslims) do want to force their religion on the rest of us. Search for "Christian Nationalism" as one example of this trend. But as always, it isn't the religion that is corrupt, it is the practitioners that corrupt the original wisdom teaching of any particular religion or spirituality. I personally wish that people would practice buddhism as it is the most peaceful of spiritual traditions I have encountered, but I realize that a minority of humans have and would corrupt it as well. No escape I guess from the human condition...
     
    #24     Jul 17, 2023
  5. themickey

    themickey

    Just think about what you wrote in your opening sentence. Hyporcrite somewhat which is not surprising as this is an all to common christian ailment?

    What does the main world religion (christianity) says about humanity?
    Condemned to eternal hell of suffering due to their guilt if they don't conform to christianity beliefs.
     
    #25     Jul 17, 2023
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  6. themickey

    themickey

    Christians are happy to have a judgemental attitude against others, that non conformist 'heathens' live their life on earth as guilty people.
    That would not exactly be a live and let live attitude now would it be?
     
    #26     Jul 17, 2023
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  7. DblArrow

    DblArrow

    Judgement? Absolutley, EVERYONE judges. Everything and everyday. It's not that we judge, its what we do with the judgement. Most christian believers, (there are outliers to everything and every belief and ....) may tell you that your eternal soul is condemned but they are not going to force you to believe their way.

    On the other hand, i.e. LGBTQ+ folks not happy to have you simply let them live their life. They insist that you believe to be true what they believe to be true and if you do not you are a homophobe and should be ostracized and canceled and not allowed in the conversation. An yet if a believer insists that you believe what they believe to be true, that is religious tyranny. Can't have it both ways.
     
    #27     Jul 17, 2023
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  8. DblArrow

    DblArrow

    Yes there are extremes to all sides to everything, and of course it is the people involved that make it so.
     
    #28     Jul 17, 2023
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  9. themickey

    themickey

    The problem with humanity and you see this particularly in christianity, they must have a guru in their life.
    Now there's nothing wrong with being inspired by others, the problem arises when you blindly follow and let them do your thinking, ie, they control all your decisions by consent.
    Humans constantly fall into this trap of subservience to others.
    So another problem develops, these gurus take advantage of the situation by subtle manipulation due to their power over you.
    Most gurus I can think of never lift a finger in work, their mouth is their tools of trade.
     
    #29     Jul 17, 2023
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  10. Matthew 15:
    6In this way, you say they don’t need to honor their parents.c And so you cancel the word of God for the sake of your own tradition. 7You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you, for he wrote,


    8‘These people honor me with their lips,

    but their hearts are far from me.

    9Their worship is a farce,

    for they teach man-made ideas as commands from God.’d



    10Then Jesus called to the crowd to come and hear. “Listen,” he said, “and try to understand. 11It’s not what goes into your mouth that defiles you; you are defiled by the words that come out of your mouth.”

    12Then the disciples came to him and asked, “Do you realize you offended the Pharisees by what you just said?”

    13Jesus replied, “Every plant not planted by my heavenly Father will be uprooted, 14so ignore them. They are blind guides leading the blind, and if one blind person guides another, they will both fall into a ditch.”
     
    #30     Jul 17, 2023