[QUOTE="themickey, post: 5834978, member: 161656"]The Christian church is obsessed with the devil, their arch enemy, the embodyment of evil. Let's pretend for a moment it's real. Now ol' Satan is cunning, the bible mentions that. If you were Satan, what would plan #1 be? Well I'd imagine, to pretend to mankind that you were God, good, Christian, religious. Think about it, being sidetracked all your life worshipping a God which is a story made by men for men with a devilish influence.[/QUOTE] Spanish Church sexual abuse affected 200,000 children, commission finds source, Getty Images Image caption, More than 487 people who were abused were interviewed as part of the investigation By Kathryn Armstrong BBC News https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67238572 More than 200,000 children are estimated to have suffered sexual abuse from Spain's Catholic clergy, an independent commission has found. The details emerged from an unprecedented public investigation by Spain's ombudsman, who spoke of the "devastating impact" on victims. Angel Gabilondo also criticised the Church for its inaction and attempts to cover up or deny the abuse. "What has happened has been possible because of that silence," he said. The 700-page report, which was ordered by Spain's Congress last year, reveals the result of a survey that the commission carried out on 800,000 members of the public. Spanish Ombudsman Angel Gabilondo, right, delivers to the Speaker of the Spanish Congress Francina Armengol, left, the Ombudsman's report on allegations of sexual abuse in the Spanish Catholic Church [Mariscal/EPA-EFE] It found that 0.6% of the country's adult population, roughly 39 million people, said that they had suffered sexual abuse as children by members of the clergy. That percentage rose to 1.13%, more than 400,000 people, when including alleged abuse by lay people in institutions overseen by the Church. Mr Gabilondo said the numbers should be treated with caution. The report also included statements from more than 487 people who suffered abuse, who stressed the emotional toll it had taken. "There are people who have [died by] suicide... people who have never put their lives back together," said Mr Gabilondo. "It is necessary to provide a response to a situation of suffering and loneliness that for years has remained, in one way or another, covered by an unfair silence." The ombudsman proposed the creation of a state fund to provide victims of abuse with compensation. The official inquiry into child sex abuse in Spain's Catholic Church followed an investigation by the El Pais newspaper, which began in 2018 and has since created a database of more than 1,000 alleged cases of abuse. A report into its findings was published in 2021. While Mr Gabilondo said on Friday that the Church did cooperate with the commission to a certain extent, he highlighted its lack of interest in assisting with the report and the hostility of bishops in some dioceses. Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez said the report's findings were a "milestone" in the country's democracy. "We are a better country because a reality that everyone knew about for many years, but nobody talked about, at least not in the terms that we are doing so today, has been made known," he said.
You just can't get any better than a black and white book of half truths and half lies which is 'God's' pure unadulterated word to guide mankind to set you on the right track to do the right thing.
Kind of strange......... On Earth very bad people often end up dead when still young, or they end up in prison, or they get caught up in violence or bad luck..... you know, they have a sticky end. But the most hated being on the planet for the christian ("oh my God") is the devil. Christians freak out and run in fear from this mythical creature - christians run from their own shadow. But this big bad monster strangely as evil as it is: Lives a very long life, longer than humans. Doesn't have weekends off or on sick leave, seems very healthy. Lives longer than humans and when he's 'done', then gets another life tormenting humans once again in hell, like he gets born again. Maybe humans are worse off than the devil. Now if the devil is a figment of the imagination conjured up by religous manipulators, who is it who has spent their wasted life running from nothing and pandering to religous leaders nonsense? Never forget, all humans are bs artists from day one and these guys are preaching to you about the truth???
Makes me laugh, one day evangelicals all love Trump, another day they hate him. I suppose God who guides the church is changing his mind? They say God is the same yesterday, today and forever, but there must be some exceptional circumstances at times.
Christians love to say they are the light. But imo they are the dark. Christians are forever blaming the devil. There is no devil. We make our own heaven and hell. Religion is like a drug, an addictive force. Once you are in, like nicotine, very difficult to extract from. Never underestimate the negative power of religion to get a hold of you with a vice like grip. Hey guys and girls, study history. There have been thousands, maybe millions of variations of types of religions on earth all attempting to reach god. Hey, but somehow the religion you are in right now is the right one! It's the only one which is correct! You are so clever and smug. The bible no one can understand, you can.
Let me think a moment, hey christian, you're not delusional? Whadabout Biden? He's double protected by God, he's Catholic and Zionist! But responsible for the deaths of 42,000 Palestinians. Is Biden off to heaven? Or is Biden delusional?
42k is probably an underestimated figure. I read we are in the 100k estimate. 40k is reported from hospitals. But a lot of these civilians murdered by Satanyahu, are wiped off and never make it to the hospital. Although I do not believe in anything, heaven, hell or other abstract illusions... Nobody involved in killing thousands of civilians, doctors, nurses, children, women and elderly should hope for grace once they step on the other side. Hell is waiting, with a vip pass. No Satanyahu, no Hamas or Hezbollah terrorists, no Iranian leaders, no USA, no UK, no France Italy Germany weapon suppliers, corrupted media and politicians are to be spared from hell. Israel will probably never experience peace during their existence. It's absurd how they present Russia to be the evil we need to stand against, whilst supporting Israel, when Israel killed way more civilian in one year than Russia since they invaded Ukraine. I personally despise anyone who kills innocents or send people to die while sipping coffee out of range.
I don't want to believe conspiracy theories, but the West live in a delusional world, so adept at bullshit, they believe their own bullshit. The media, politics, religion in particular full of their own made up delusional world. Television full of shit. Newspapers full of shit. Sheeple lap up the shit, they love it. Biden hardly mentioned, if ever + 40,000 dead Palestinians but he sure commented about 1 dead man, Yahya Sinwar, he thought it was fantastic. Never mind this whole current debacle was instigated not by Hamas but Israel, they've been shit stirring for years in Palestine. Then USA step in and supply thousands of bombs. Yeah, guess where the devil is? We are it with our fukking self created delusional bullshit.
You are up against cultural narcissists/fanatics who have motivated reasoning, Bibi's to stay in power. Children being just future enemies is how they roll. Man created this God in his image. Now the rocks get dashed on the infants in the form of falling buildings. Everybody should know the smell of concrete dust and rotting bodies.