If I was running a prop shop I would want my traders making money. I would not want them setting around trying to figure out how to trade on their own. It's totally understood that every trader must find his own way and methods that jive with their inner soul. But again it would be in the shops best interest, that trader makes money right out of the gate. If I was a budding trader I would want make money trading even if it was taking direction from someone. Lasting in the game as you find your way is paramount to becoming a trader. Am I wrong so far or is it just throw them in the water and see who swims? So since I would imagine prop shops tout they will give you the best tools a trader needs to start out etc. Does the failure rate mean that some prop shops are not sharing what they know about making money or is it that the traders don't apply that knowledge? Why would a prop shop with the right crew not basically own the world?