Let's talk about eliminating noise in the charts

Discussion in 'Technical Analysis' started by nooby_mcnoob, Nov 29, 2021.

Is this guy stupid

Poll closed Nov 30, 2021.
  1. No

    80.0%
  2. Absolutely not

    60.0%
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  1. I click a mouse if that's what you mean. The mouse click starts a bunch of code running.
     
    #11     Nov 29, 2021
  2. easymon1

    easymon1

    #12     Nov 29, 2021
  3. Overnight

    Overnight

    Back to the smoothing idea...Here's a standard unirenko chart starting Sunday night until now that shows typical action on a typical smaller-sized chart.

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    Here's the same date range on a much-larger bar chart...

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    Yes, there is a way to avoid the noise, but on a chart that large you have to use humongous stops to get out of the noisy chop. It's all relative.
     
    #13     Nov 29, 2021
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  4. panzerman

    panzerman

    Have a look at some of the work by John Ehlers. However, I am not making a claim that his work will result in a positive expectancy trading method for you or anyone for that matter.

    You may have just discovered for yourself that indicators don't work.
     
    #14     Nov 29, 2021
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  5. Yes the conclusion appears to be that I have to use my smooth brain to smooth it. It works fine, but I just wish I could stop using my brain.
     
    #15     Nov 29, 2021
  6. Overnight

    Overnight

    Tough titties, yer stuck with using it. Eat some hot fudge right out of the jar and wash it down with some Joltâ„¢ cola. That'll get you some thinking juice right quick. :)
     
    #16     Nov 29, 2021
  7. easymon1

    easymon1

    How is "noise" differentiated from "non-noise"?
     
    #17     Nov 29, 2021
  8. Noise is more or less action around a mean. At least so far as I'm concerned.
     
    #18     Nov 29, 2021
  9. Overnight

    Overnight

    Notice the pattern during today's session that appears many times per month. Drop at RTH open, and right around 10:30AM ET it reverses and rises through the afternoon. Super-easy to see on both charts. I wish I could predict those days. Bollocks.
     
    #19     Nov 29, 2021
  10. maxinger

    maxinger

    Simply eliminate the chart totally and the noise will disappear totally.

    Do not attempt to smoothen the noise from the chart.

    Even if you manage to smoothen the chart and trade it,
    the chances of a successful trade are zero.

    Go and choose other charts which are nice looking and not ugly.

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    #20     Nov 29, 2021
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