Let's learn/discuss how to read the DOM and Time and Sales

Discussion in 'Trading Software' started by 1a2b3cppp, Apr 8, 2013.


  1. Thank you for making the effort.

    If you mark the sine wave with 1, 2, 3, 4 as a locus for the begining of each quarter of the sine wave, then these four numbers would be placed at the extreme limits of the window at compas points N, E, S and W and returning to N. The route shaped liike an "O" would result. You show the lissajoux pattern that is found as the ratio (1:2) of the thre most prominent trading values:p; V; and A/D.

    the optimum hold for longs and shorts respectively would be segments of the "O". I chose to enter late and leave early to take advantage of "compouding" while making money.

    For longs hold through the angle from 290 to 70 degrees on the compass. For shorts hold from 110 to 250.

    All of this explains the relationship of bar volatility to bar overlap.

    Digging deeply into the operation of markets is very very rewarding. The market "tellegraphs" its offer.

    As you know this provides an Order of Events that is more than high probability. My stuff was purposely deleted from a now dead "probability thread. So this commentary will be deleted as well because the moderator will agree with complainers who are ignorant of how the DOM and T&S connects to "calling the market" based on the probability science of Orders Of Events.

    The market OOE has, roughly six elements. I could take a cube and market each on the die. A coin does not work since it lacks four elements. The sides are: P1, T1, P2, T2P, T2F, and PEP.

    THe CW uses the die and makes 20% a year. I posted 2 trades from the open on 9APR13 and made 8% of capital.

    The die shows how random elements are created; from this you may conclude that the market is NOT random in any way.

    SCT shows how OOE's are THE form of the market's operation. The situation is one where probability is turned into certainty. Magna could not grasp this concept elsewhere so all of my "calls" and backup charts were deleted.

    the die contains the elements the market independent variable goes through. The die is simple rotated in one and only once sequence. Probability in markets becomes certainty of an order of events. The mind cannot "get it" because the mind is usually full of crap that makes people whine and whine and whine.

    The DOM shows a sine price that most trades can see. WALLS are not surmounted, thankfully. Wall represent what CW people call support and resistance. The reason is the level of intelligence of the WALL builders; it is not sufficient up to now in the industry. They pile up more limit ordrs than can be processed, i. e., the T&S velocity is LESS THAN the DOM velocity.

    So the tellegraphing of the independent variable by systematically locking in the OOE to form the sine wave of price. It is seen as a parallelogram container: point 1, point 2, point 3 and the Failure To Traverse.

    These four dependent variable points are in correspondence to P1, P2, T2P, and P3P. P is peak and T is trough.

    As obvuscating as this seems up to this point, it is necessary to mention the "pieces" before they are put together.

    The rule is this: If you know what the parts are of anything, then you may be able to put them together by just thinking.

    In markets mostly only direct relations exist. Inverse relations are rare.

    A chart of velocity and acceleration was presented and corrected. (thank you for the effort). we know their relationship to price. the DOM shows price.

    Everything is falling in place. A person here almost presented a volume statement, but he did it incorrectly. That is because he is searching for an unknown solution by randomly trying what comes to his mind.

    Here, I work "purposefully" and this process is known as a "dedicated" effort.

    You can use the DOM to trade market moves called trends. trends follow the sine wave. on three levels. Price, the dependent variable moves the slowest. WE now have a Johari window of velocity and acceleration and it is observable on the DOM.

    WALLS are located at W and E on the Johari window. we see a long move off the BID Wall starting @ then just above it. as time passes the velocity goes to a max and the accelration, naturally declined from its max to zero. Price is now 1/2 way to its trend ending and it moving through price (upward at its best clip so far. (very low overlap bar-by-bar and maximum length price bars.

    NOW you kep holding as you see acceleration become deceleration and the velocity goes from max to zero as you see the ASK wall approaching on price by getting closer and closer on each tick. The WALL is the excessive concurrent targets of CW traders who are going to not get filled and get left at the gate..... lol ... it is the usual whining that will follow and they will not get out later at BE because they are so low as recent arrivals in FIFO. But their stops are there and will geet hit because the limit order becomes a market order and cascades to the low quantities of DOM (the stop is near first in line and the target not hit was removed by now.

    So you now can watch the DOM and use the compass values to go in by market and exit by market for a long.

    My two trades on the (APR13 FF 4 chart show how I aced a going into a short @ bar 1 (9:31) 110 degrees and held to 250 degrees. (9:37).. Then @ 290 degrees I entered (a few tcks below my prior exit) and held on the DOM to 70 degrees.

    This is very rhythmic. moving forward tick by tick is a repetitious DOM pattern. At the wall the rhythm stops.

    you go to the T&S or an OTR chart and see the "dominance of the "two pairs" shift in sentiment as you carve the turn at the WALL.

    here is a reminder; when you are learning or self learning, you have to be so thorough that you do check you work to be sure you are correct. this is what lucrum Magna, Atticus and Pekelo have failed to do in using "plain vanilla math". they keep fucking uo and they do not check their work. They cannot receive corrections to their fuck ups. Why is it not possible in the Education section to fix the permanent mistake filled first thread? One reason, no thoroughness is in place.

    Complaints do not do thoroughness.
     
    #81     Apr 20, 2013
  2. funny, i can tell its a hershey post even without looking at the author.

    shocking , huh
     
    #82     Apr 20, 2013
  3. Not shocking at all to your readers.

    It will read the same way for you in 6 months.
     
    #83     Apr 20, 2013
  4. We all know he read my reply and he knew who posted it without looking at the author.
     
    #84     Apr 20, 2013
  5. It was the same for the above post.
     
    #85     Apr 20, 2013
  6. and again ...
     
    #86     Apr 20, 2013
  7. AHA ...
     
    #87     Apr 20, 2013
  8. ah
     
    #88     Apr 20, 2013
  9. .
     
    #89     Apr 20, 2013
  10. ncx

    ncx

    Thoroughness is tough.

    I think that being messy initially has it's advantages.

    I try to look from many different perspectives. But point taken about thoroughness.

    Too much password guessing. (http://lesswrong.com/lw/iq/guessing_the_teachers_password/)
    Too little critical thinking. School is bad for ya.

    Neural haircut is hard to overcome. But slowly I am learning to think like a child. I did take out a deck of cards and cut them and I did draw w inside W among many other things.

    My brain too often falls into a strange loop and I cannot teach it to take the strange loop as a signal instead.

    Volume bands were a crucial missing piece for me. Trading is much slower now.
     
    #90     Apr 20, 2013