Lets discuss techniques for smoothing MAs

Discussion in 'Technical Analysis' started by IronFist, Sep 26, 2008.

  1. I also have a Sine Weighted MA that is cool because it doesn't have an adjustable period.

    I like it for the same reason I like VWAP; you can't screw it up by picking the "wrong" period.
     
    #11     Sep 29, 2008
  2. #12     Nov 4, 2008
  3. why do you want to smooth it? i think this a valid question.

    you could put on a MA then ignore it. that's about as smooth as it gets :D
     
    #13     Nov 4, 2008
  4. Corey

    Corey

    Smoothing a moving average, without adding lag, is really a question of filtering noise while capturing significant price movements.

    Looking at time-agnostic data series, like renko charting, was a real help in this area for me. I stopped looking at periods as relative to time, but rather relative to significant movements.

    I'll leave it up to the reader to define significant -- I suppose it means something different for everyone with how they want to trade.
     
    #14     Nov 4, 2008
  5. MGJ

    MGJ

    The Savitzky-Golay technique, popularized in the very influential book Numerical Recipes, is awfully good at smoothing (in my opinion). It's an FIR filter so you don't need infinite amounts of past data to "prime" it (unlike an IIR filter). Here's the lowdown. Note Figure 14.8.1, the peaks are not attenuated (!!)

    http://www.wire.tu-bs.de/OLDWEB/mameyer/cmr/savgol.pdf
     
    #15     Nov 4, 2008
  6. pneuma

    pneuma

    For metastock:

    Almost Zero Lag Moving Average
    Period:= Input("What Period",1,250,10);
    EMA1:= Mov(P,Period,E);
    EMA2:= Mov(EMA1,Period,E);
    Difference:= EMA1 - EMA2;
    ZeroLagEMA:= EMA1 + Difference;
    ZeroLagEMA

    pneuma
     
    #16     Nov 4, 2008
  7. May I suggest www.jurikres.com ?
    I"ve seen their Jurik's MA's, and they're VERY nice and smooth.
    Faster reaction time too.
    Moderators, my apologies if giving the name and link is wrong.
    Just delete my post if the rules require it.
     
    #17     Nov 4, 2008
  8. kut2k2

    kut2k2

    I don't think there's a problem, I've recommended Jurik in a number of other threads myself. But I think the OP is looking for a free solution. With that in mind, I don't think anything in the public domain is likely to do the trick, unless the OP can figure out how to apply a Kalman filter to his data. :eek:
     
    #18     Nov 4, 2008
  9. rosy2

    rosy2

    you dont smooth moving averages. MA are used to smooth data. as someone already stated you can take a longer term MA
     
    #19     Nov 5, 2008
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    SMA[simple moving average ]is simply smoother than ema.

    200 day moving average is one of the smoother ones around;
    smoother than olive oil-thats smooth, for sure

    As far as an advantage with moving averages;
    may want to put several more on your charts,
    ,and find several more useful...................................
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    :cool:
     
    #20     Nov 5, 2008