Let's be real here , what if the markets were doing the complete opposite!

Discussion in 'Trading' started by S2007S, Jun 16, 2024.

  1. smallfil

    smallfil

    I would not bother shorting when the major indexes are all trending up. You are bucking the trend here and it is like running towards the tsunami instead, of away from it. If the big institutions including, hedge funds are buying---you want to be buying too with them. Even weak stocks will be able to withstand selling pressure for a while, atleast in a bullish environment.
     
    #11     Jun 17, 2024
  2. smallfil

    smallfil

    The easiest money you will ever make in the stockmarket is being long the stockmarket indexes since, the bias of the stockmarket for the most part is up. That is not rocket science. Take note, they do not ring any warning bells at the very top before it reverses.
     
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    #12     Jun 17, 2024
  3. smallfil

    smallfil

    And the stockmarket is never wrong. However, you are a lot of times. Let us get real.
     
    #13     Jun 17, 2024
  4. I don't konw why there are always so many threads complaining about it.

    You should embrace it! thank the market and the fed! We're gonna keep going up most days for years and years. We know it. Makes it easier to make money. Don't complain about it lol

    I've basically been a 'long only' trader for ages now and it's a LOT easier and less stress lol. Even when you get it wrong in terms of timing, you'll mostly get bailed out

    Of course the market is designed to go up. As you say, when things get bad and markets go down, they introduce all kinds of new rules to stop that happening. Not so the other way around. It's all good. Just buy dips and buy breakouts
     
    #14     Jun 17, 2024
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  5. Good Morning smallfil,

    Yes it is pretty easy, I just buy the SP500 index every month.

    I have also started buy the spxl 3x leverage index of sp500 every month as well.

    I will hold VNFIX and SPXL for the rest of my life until my account show me $2million, then I quit. This is easy stuff.

    Hopefully I can get this ES account to million as well. That is the most challenge part for me. I would like to trade 100 ES contracts everyday.
     
    #15     Jun 17, 2024
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  6. How does the market keep going up? What timeframe are you referring to? If you look back 3 years, IWM is down 10%, EEM is down 16%, SPY is up 35%, and AGG is down 8%. A typical portfolio has gained measly 5% over 3 years, 1.6% annualized which definitely hasn't beaten treasuries. You are taking risk for buying equities and should be compensated for that risk, which should bring you to an expected 7 to 9% annual. 1.5% is drastically underperforming, at least over the past 36 months.
     
    #16     Jun 17, 2024
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  7. MarkBrown

    MarkBrown

    the markets keep going up cause the dollar is worth toilet paper. no take that back toilet paper is worth something at least.

    they don't want the market to go down cause they are are all at the top of the pyramid and they need a foundation of fools to hold them up.

    the world is in a race to the bottom.
     
    #17     Jun 17, 2024
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  8. Hello MarkBrown,

    Agree, if stocks going down, the "big boys" in office and government, Lose all their assets before cashing out and retire. Then the next group of "big boys" come in and start over again.

    This was seen in 2008 when they gave all the banks "FREE" billions of dollars to make everything look good.
     
    #18     Jun 17, 2024
  9. nitrene

    nitrene

    You're correct. My mistake. I always get them mixed up.
     
    #19     Jun 17, 2024
  10. %%
    OK, finding some thing better than IWM+ EEM, FFTY,even if some in 125,000 traders make a profit in those .
    NO disrespect to Investors Business Daily which has done FFTY.
    3 years can be important, even though IWM +EEM tend to underperform \many time farmes:caution::caution:
     
    #20     Jun 17, 2024