Definitions and logic. Species: a taxonomic group whose members can interbreed. Speciation: the evolutionary formation of new biological species The inability to interbreed is a necessary, but not a sufficient, condition of a difference of species. Mutation is a necessary, but not a sufficient, condition of evolution.
Non responsive. You perpetually apply ad hominem fallacies, yet claim to be strong with logical argumentation? ROTFLAMO. It doesn't require a law degree to call someone on their shit. You can't win arguments here in Chit Chat and resort to name calling and personal attacks, and you tell us what a great attorney you are. Laugh My Freaking Ass off.
Your statements following your definitions are merely your opinion. Furthermore, neither statement tells us what, by your definition "is" a "sufficient condition" of evolution. You have simply moved the target to a different location so as to avoid having to admit that the "worm has turned" on you.
I have yet to see anyone on either side of the issue here, change their position in response to any of either of our posts. Your conclusion therefore has no merit, and, once again, is supported by nothing other than your own opinion.
____________________________________________ At this point I would go with number 1. After many years experience scientists are human, subject to peer pressures, and need to get funded and published by peer boards. I am heading out the door to a committee meeting whose job it is to help raise funding for a fairly large scientific organization. Interestingly enough our greatest advances have been the refuting of prior "junk science". It takes a great deal of money to go against the grain and prove widely held fallacies to be absurd. It is even harder to get the honest results published and accepted in the current mindset.
Well, if you're gonna take the position that every example of speciation is a fraud, then I may as well stop now, because, you're basically saying, that no matter what evidence I produce, you will not accept it as valid, unless it supports your predetermined conclusion.
Wrong. "The inability to interbreed is a necessary, but not a sufficient, condition of a difference of species." and "Mutation is a necessary, but not a sufficient, condition of evolution." follow logically and inevitably from the terms they contain.
One more time, what are the "sufficient conditions", by your definition, necessary to proving evolution?
Definitions and logic. Evolution: [partial definition] change in the genetic composition of a population resulting in a new species. Species: a taxonomic group whose members can interbreed. Speciation: the evolutionary formation of new species. Mutation is a necessary, but not a sufficient, condition of evolution. The inability to interbreed is a necessary, but not a sufficient, condition of a difference of species.
_________________________________________ Many examples of speciation have been shown to be frauds and until there are multiple studies of the examples in question by dissenting scientists then no I cannot accept it at this point and neither should you from either perspective. The results aren't all in by any means yet so we should both question the other side until all is known.