Let me tell you a little bit about Ron Paul

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Maverick74, Dec 10, 2007.

  1. separation of church and state was not the point of the original statements. It was:

    "Congress shall pass no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."

    In other words, this item in the Bill of Rights was to prevent the govt from interfering with the practice of religion, which is was we have now. It was not supposed to be an exercise in having the ACLU stamp out any kind of expression of religion, such as menorahs, creches, mentions of God in coins, etc.

    What has happened in reality, is Congress separating people from their right to practice their religion, because atheists and other groups become "offended" and sue to have its practice stamped out in any possible way.

    I am no Ron Paul fan, but trying to close eyes to the fact that this originally was and presently is a predominantly Christian country, speaking English, and practicing capitalism/democracy, doesn't change the reality.
     
    #11     Dec 10, 2007
  2. Exactly.......
     
    #12     Dec 10, 2007
  3. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/12/4/151735/850/188/417817

    Ron Paul: Black Men Are 'Actual and Potential Terrorists'
     
    #13     Dec 10, 2007
  4. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    I never made an argument for taking God out of the constitution. I just find it odd that most of CC seems to complain about religon and politics and yet some of Paul's biggest supporters are those from the "Christian Identity Movement" and other extremist religous groups on the right. Things that make you go hmm....
     
    #14     Dec 10, 2007
  5. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    And the beat goes on......I swear, you can't make this sh*t up.

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/17/155438/459

    "This time, let's turn our attention from Paul's words to his actions, and see how the congressman from Texas has, for the past quarter century, systematically built a support network for himself among the worst far-right crackpots, racists, and neo-Nazis in America.

    THE STRANGE CASE OF LARRY PRATT

    In 1996, presidential candidate Pat Buchanan got in hot water when the Center for Public Integrity revealed connections between Buchanan's campaign co-chairman Larry Pratt and Pastor Pete Peters, a leader of the white supremacist Christian Identity movement. Pratt, the executive director of Gun Owners of America, had been a frequent guest at meetings and on radio and television programs hosted by Peters, who inveighed against "Talmudic filth" as Pratt looked on. On February 15, 1996, Pratt took a leave of absence from the Buchanan campaign, so as to avoid causing a "distraction."

    The very next day, reported the San Antonio Express-News on February 18, Ron Paul distributed a press release touting Pratt's endorsement of Paul's candidacy for the U.S. Congress. Pratt's endorsement of Paul was anything but pro forma; the February 22, 1996 issue of Roll Call noted that Paul and Mike Gunn, a Republican candidate for Congress in Mississippi who had done some work for David Duke in the latter's 1991 Louisiana gubernatorial campaign, were the only two candidates formally endorsed for office that year by Pratt's organization. Paul's opponent in the Republican primary, Rep. Greg Laughlin, called upon Paul to repudiate Pratt; Paul declined to do so, with his spokesman saying that Paul opposed racism but that "nothing has been proven against Mr. Pratt. He has denied it." (Pratt's enthusiasm for Paul continues to this day, as this quasi-endorsement of Paul's 2008 presidential campaign makes clear.)

    THE COMPANY RON PAUL KEEPS

    Paul's disinclination to separate himself from the Larry Pratts of the world is part of a pattern that over the last 20 years has seen him snuggling up to some extremely questionable characters on the far right fringe. Like, for example, secessionists, who gathered at a conference in April of 1995 to hear Paul speak about the "once and future Republic of Texas." Or the beady-eyed listeners of The Political Cesspool. It's the unofficial radio program of the Council of Conservative Citizens--you know, the repainted White Citizens Council that got Trent Lott into a bit of trouble a few years ago. (Tune in tonight for their special program on "the disastrous Brown vs. Topeka Board of Education decision, one which ushered in an era of radical leftist ideology upon the American citizenry.") Paul has been a guest on the program; you'll find him listed under P, right above Prussian Blue, the white supremacist teenage singing duo.

    Or the crazy-as-fuck John Birch Society, to which Paul is more than happy to grant the occasional interview and even speak at their dinners (the podcast, I am sorry to report, no longer seems to be available). In fact, Paul is the only member of Congress to receive a perfect 100 from the John Birch Society in its most recent member ratings.

    THE KLAN'S MAN IN WASHINGTON

    Like many members of Congress, the prolific Paul posts his speeches, columns, and statements on his House Web site. He allows anyone to republish and distribute them, and many do. For example, our old friends the Council of Conservative Citizens occasionally publish Paul in its newsletter, the Citizens Informer (warning: PDF). And then there's David Duke, who can't get enough of Ron Paul; you can find his columns on davidduke.com here and here and here and here and here. If you're more of a dead-tree fan, you can find Paul's thoughts on foreign policy reprinted in the January 2007 issue of the National Times, a white supremacist newspaper that apparently gets distributed through the time-honored neo-Nazi method of throwing the thing onto unsuspecting people's porches in the middle of the night and scurrying away.

    For a real look inside the tiny, demented mind of the neo-Nazi, though, we need to go to Stormfront. Stormfront is the oldest and largest white supremacist site on the World Wide Web; its discussion boards provide an unequaled opportunity for eavesdropping on the thoughts and plans of the racist underground in America and around the world. And you don't have to visit for very long before one thing jumps out at you: they positively adore Ron Paul. (Please note that links in this paragraph go to a hate site and should probably be considered NSFW.) An "Is Ron Paul the One?" topic is currently stickied in Stormfront's Newslinks & Articles forum; another active topic on Paul's candidacy has received 446 posts and 12,040 pageviews since late March. A topic called "Ron Paul's Race Problem" (hey, Wonkette musta read my diary!) was just started today and already has 17 replies. They're busy little racists over there."
     
    #15     Dec 10, 2007
  6. dinoman

    dinoman

    Blatant as lie! Try it went from 1 to 2% to 6 to 12 %. HTat of course if you believe the shit that News Corp, GE ETC. is shoving down your ever loving throat. You are percived as a pawn by corps like these.

    Don' take my word for it!

    TIVO these main channels for a weak then go research the facts and find out how well they match. Go to the INET, Library or whatever source you would think that would actually have hard core facts with no bias.

    Then compare and match. After you fall out of shock then come back and post you thoughts.

    Not sure what polls you based it on either if it was anything other than Straw or online then you flat out lied through your teeth.
     
    #16     Dec 10, 2007

  7. Geez..This is the most dirt they can dig up on him. Why would dailykos waste their time marginalizing Paul if he has no chance? Calling him a racist? This is just a testament to how much integrity Paul's career has. Have you ever been to one of the Paul rallies that are forming all over the country? It didn't look to me like a Hitler youth gamboree. Have you noticed Paul doesn't negative campaign? I don't think he will either. Clinton does. Bush did. I think the others will too. Ron Paul will likely stand above them once again on that issue.
     
    #17     Dec 10, 2007
  8. There is nothing special about Ron Paul attracting these dubious groups. Always when people get fed up with the 'politics as usual' they look for someone that says it like it is and promises to restore old and proven values, like the constitution.
    In Holland we had Pim Fortuyn who was endorses by both left and (ultra) rights, because he promised change and a shakeup of the balance of power. It happens in any country where the state has gotten rotten.

    I don't have the impression RP is a fascist, on the contrary. Trying to prove he is, says more about the accuser then the accused.

    What is your agenda Mav?
     
    #18     Dec 10, 2007
  9. and the same ones that financed them are behind all the CFR candidates like hillary, obama, mitt, rudy, fred, mccain, etc ad nauseam.... they were such great humanist though. meanwhile white christian russians died in the tens of millions.
     
    #19     Dec 10, 2007

  10. awwwwwwwww.. maverick is sthcared of the boogie man. all that crap has been discredited a long time ago. did u just learn how to google it today?


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    #20     Dec 10, 2007