This comes from MSNBC, it is impossible for me to cut the whole article because of how NBC has created the page but there is a video of Leon Panetta on the site. Brian Williams repeatedly tried to get him to change his tune, but Panetta admitted it very openly. It is good to know that Pelosi supposedly was not involved in waterboarding. cause otherwise she might try to take credit for killing Bin Laden. Panetta strikes me as a guy who is incredibly honest. He could have lied at this point and gotten away with it, given the fact that he is the one who looks stupid. Therefore in my eyes Pelosi is the lying cunt. WASHINGTON â Intelligence garnered from waterboarded detainees was used to track down al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden and kill him, CIA Chief Leon Panetta told NBC News on Tuesday. "Enhanced interrogation techniques" were used to extract information that led to the mission's success, Panetta said during an interview with anchor Brian Williams. Those techniques included waterboarding, he acknowledged........... http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/42880435/ns/world_news-south_and_central_asia/ <object width="420" height="245" id="msnbc2127f3" classid="clsid27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=10,0,0,0"><param name="movie" value="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32545640" /><param name="FlashVars" value="launch=42886480&width=420&height=245" /><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always" /><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true" /><param name="wmode" value="transparent" /><embed name="msnbc2127f3" src="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32545640" width="420" height="245" FlashVars="launch=42886480&width=420&height=245" allowscriptaccess="always" allowFullScreen="true" wmode="transparent" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash"></embed></object><p style="font-size:11px; font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: #999; margin-top: 5px; background: transparent; text-align: center; width: 420px;">Visit msnbc.com for <a style="text-decoration:none !important; border-bottom: 1px dotted #999 !important; font-weight:normal !important; height: 13px; color:#5799DB !important;" href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com">breaking news</a>, <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032507" style="text-decoration:none !important; border-bottom: 1px dotted #999 !important; font-weight:normal !important; height: 13px; color:#5799DB !important;">world news</a>, and <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032072" style="text-decoration:none !important; border-bottom: 1px dotted #999 !important; font-weight:normal !important; height: 13px; color:#5799DB !important;">news about the economy</a></p> Will any of these democrats come clean after this and admit that they were wrong?
Not sure what you're after, Hello, a statement like, "the end justifies the means"? When painted into such a corner I'm going to jump up on the shoulders of the half-dozen philosophers and theologians still arguing over this and get right outtta there. ; )
I knew your devious plan was just to confuse me.... lets stick with "end justifies the means" Besides me, Lucrum is the only other guy to admit he would take a baseballbat to assholes like this,(feel free to absolve youself of this now lucrum, if i am infact wrong) but liberals have convinced us this is wrong. A family member of mine was raped and i would gladly take a set of brass knuckles to the perpetrator. Why do Liberals claim this is somehow wrong, especially in this case, where evidence suggests it worked, and led to the capture of Osama Bin Laden... There is certain scenarios where just beating a person relentlessly yilds far superior results.
I know the feeling well, I was a prison guard once. By the way, you can get modern knuckles now, made of a composite plastic. : )
So then where are the liberals claiming Obama is a war criminal? Or do you believe the water boarding under Panetta only happened 2 years before today, right before Bush ended? I am not looking for all justice to be solved this way, only the cases where the evidence is overwhelrming like in the case of KSM or OBL.I like the tacttics that were most likely employed in the prison you worked for....Pedophiles and rapists die, and god willing the rest qof the animals sort themselves out.
ED SCHULTZ claims water boarding never led to the capture of Osama, he had a full segment denying Obamas responsibility in the mess, with some 30 pound piss ant in the media who doesnt know shit. This is comical watching these guys relieve themselves of this mess.
It's a matter of legitimacy, perhaps? For many people, Bush lost that with the WMD claim--illegitimate. Failing to intervene in Rwanda--illegitimate. Defending civilians--legitimate. Getting even with OBL--legitimate. Just a hypothesis, feel free to tear it up.
Thx for responding to what i said... I feel no need to "tear it up," as it pertains to our argument, infact i appreciate the fact that you responded to a thread that was clearly a losing thread for a left winger. it just pisses me of where this country is going, i dont get why there isnt more logical people out there like you. I have a feeling i will be joining you in Canada very soon since Harper got elected.