I hope you guys are just Kibitzing. Lehman just wrote down commercial real estate to .39 on the dollar - that's what i heard. What that means is, since these idiots always water at the same hole, all the rest will have huge write downs coming. They're all going lower without, at least for the time being, not having to worry about the Govt bailing them out. I just see Lehman as desparate it's like the fat sweaty girl with glasses at the dance. She's desparate to dance, but it just aint' happenin'. Lots of other ugly girls aren't sweating yet. Farther to fall. And they are all going to fall.