Left skew , being on the wrong side of IQ

Discussion in 'Politics' started by PHOENIX TRADING, Aug 24, 2012.

  1. Mav88

    Mav88

    Are you kidding me? you must not be american if you do not understand the enormous resources put into educating the uneducatable.

    Your position is irrational and unsupported reality, that IQ scores are something completely mallable by nurture, that anyone can be a brain surgeon with enough attention and support for instance. You think just anyone can trade with enough education? Let me get you some students.

    You also keep assuming that you have precisely defined something called intelligence and then build arguments around it. You have not.
     
    #131     Sep 1, 2012
  2. Mav88

    Mav88

    I never said education is not beneficial, never.

    I can train all my life, I will never beat Usain Bolt in the 100m. We are bio-chemical machines with a built in upside, same goes for intelligence.
     
    #132     Sep 1, 2012
  3. How to explain this so that everyone will understand…

    Genetic IQ is like the processing speed of your CPU… It doesn’t deal with socially learned things.

    Now that might sound stupid to you but let’s look at two examples:

    One is the game of chess…

    http://www.chess.com/forum/view/daily-puzzles/912012---abstract-mating-idea

    The solution to today’s puzzle (9/1/2012) is 1. Qxf6, exf6 2. Ne8, Ng4 3. fxg4, Bxe4 4. Nxf6#

    I usually solve these puzzles in less than 2 minutes due to the fact that they’re all pretty easy and usually involve a queen sacrifice!:D Anyone can learn the rules of chess. Once you know how to move the pieces it’s all up to your processing power and imagination. Despite being a very cheap game to play Africans who make up a significant part of the world’s population are not very good at the game.

    The other is mathematics…

    Let us say that a chess genius is tested in math against a lower IQ individual. They’re both presented with a dA/dt (change in area over time) problem involving the relationship between the area of a triangle and its angle.

    Now they both know that A=1/2absin(theta) in this case but there is a difference… Our dumb person has learned the derivatives of trigonometric functions while our chess genius does not know that d/dxsin(theta)=cos(theta)…! Our dumb person will benefit from his learned social knowledge and score higher! However, the answer is deceiving… Once our chess genius applies himself to the study of math he will score much better than the dumb person on all future tests.

    So if massive amounts of educational resources are invested in lower IQ people then they too can learn! However, that's unfair to the rest of us who had to learn the hard way without any support. It's also unfair that we've been targeted for "cultural elimination" because being white and smart is inconvenient to America's future!
     
    #133     Sep 1, 2012
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    #134     Sep 1, 2012
  5. Mav88

    Mav88

    I read Brass' 'functioning adult' link. He presented nothing but non-empirical assertions and a host of logical absurdities.

    I could really tear that one a new asshole, but what do others think of Brass' 'functioning adult?


    First this guy is a 9/11 inside job guy, and a fringe social propagandist (scientist is not a proper description of these types)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Gil-White

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXJungM7bb8

    and surprisingly a very pro-isreal conspiracy type (surprising that Brass would think this type is reputable)

    It is amusing that people like Brass and RCG present this crap as some sort of refutation and declare that the argument is 'destroyed'. Such is the level of apologetics that the ET left thinks passes for 'proof' of their views, I guess we all kind of knew that though, that the religious left only needs a wacko or two preaching their truth.
     
    #135     Sep 1, 2012
  6. Mav88

    Mav88

    Nothing in that link, read it.

    Entire library? Oh Right, that's why RCG can reel off all those refutations, and not to mention argumentum ad populum
     
    #136     Sep 1, 2012
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    #137     Sep 1, 2012
  8. Thanks for your due diligence Mav.
     
    #138     Sep 1, 2012
  9. aww crap now you made me look something up.
    I was close, I thought it had to do with "Goebbels maxim".
     
    #139     Sep 1, 2012
  10. (unrelated to the IQ discussion)
    I'm not a chess player and correct me if I'm wrong in my perception.

    You seem to give the impression that the expert player analyses all moves or as many as possible in the allotted time.

    This is definitely wrong, that specifically is the mental strategy of beginners.
     
    #140     Sep 2, 2012