Left & Right Polls Agree: Obama Is Flubbing It

Discussion in 'Politics' started by rc8222, Jul 26, 2011.

  1. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    BINGO! we have a winner!
     
    #11     Jul 26, 2011
  2. bone

    bone

    And of course Drudge is now posting the latest WP polling which shows the left and minorities (especially blacks) supposedly leaving Obama in "droves" their words, not mine. And of course, that supports your premise.

    Essentially, the thread title is correct in terms of polling and sentiment. In many ways, ObamaCare is a synopsis of his term to date - somehow during the sausage-making process nobody ended up with a product they were willing to eat.
     
    #12     Jul 26, 2011
  3. No you dont.
     
    #13     Jul 26, 2011
  4. And the GOP is likely to nominate the guy who first passed Romney/Obama care
     
    #14     Jul 26, 2011
  5. 377OHMS

    377OHMS

    Obama has damaged himself somewhat over the last few weeks.

    Triangulation doesn't seem to work when both sides have already figured out you are a damned liar.

    At this point there is the perception that the guy values reelection above all else. That can't help him.

    One of these days we'll wake up and see that Christie or Perry has entered the race and that will be the end of that. Either of those guys can win and win big.

    You see, Clinton shifted from left-center to the center. Obama is attempting to shift to the center from so far out on the left gaussian tail that it is not the least bit credible. He'll simply lose everyone.

    I for one would love to see this guy become universally loathed, castigated as a hack and run out of town just ahead of a special prosecutor. He needs to be taken down a notch or two just as he sought to take American down a notch or two. Back to Hyde Park and his criminally corrupt friends.
     
    #15     Jul 26, 2011
  6. Don't believe for one second that all the pissed off dems who are currently fuming at Obama will sit home on election day when Romney,Bachemenn,Palenty etc is the only other option
     
    #16     Jul 26, 2011
  7. bone

    bone

    Which would make him more appealing to Independents - Romney won his governorship as a moderate who appealed to Independents. The other draw would be his business and executive experience running Bain Capital and the Olympics. From a business perspective, beats the shit out of a constitutional law professor / community organizer any day of the week.
     
    #17     Jul 26, 2011


  8. The Obama media hasn't started their assault on Romney yet...he will be destroyed.Obama will own him in debates just like McCain,Fred Thompson,Ron Paul and nearly everyone does


    He'll get the John Kerry treatment for his former liberal stances.All the job losses and bankruptcies he caused while at Bain will be highlighted

    Theres also that Mormon problem...





    18 % of Republicans ,19 % of independents wont vote for a Mormon in 2012




    PRINCETON, NJ -- Though the vast majority of Americans say they would vote for their party's nominee for president in 2012 if that person happens to be a Mormon, 22% say they would not, a figure largely unchanged since 1967.

    The question is mainly relevant to the Republican and independent vote in 2012, given that the current Republican front-runner, Mitt Romney, is an active member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, commonly known as the Mormon church, and that another Mormon, former Utah Gov. and former Ambassador to China Jon Huntsman, may enter the race for the GOP nomination as early as next week.

    The new Gallup poll, conducted June 9-12, finds nearly 20% of Republicans and independents saying they would not support a Mormon for president. That is slightly lower than the 27% of Democrats saying the same.

    The largest differences in opposition to voting for a Mormon for president are by educational level, with adults who have not attended college more resistant than those with some college experience or college graduates. This educational pattern is seen in attitudes about voting for someone from almost all of the specific religious or demographic groups tested in the poll.

    There are no significant differences on this question by gender, age, region of the country, or religious preference. Additionally, the views of Americans who attend their place of worship weekly are no different from those of less frequent attenders or non-attenders.

    Opposition to Mormon President Among the Most Common Voting Bias

    At 22%, Americans' resistance to electing a Mormon president, even one nominated by their own party, is exceeded only by their opposition to electing someone who is either gay or lesbian (32%) or an atheist (49%). By contrast, less than half as many, 10%, say they would not vote for a Hispanic, and fewer than 10% would not vote for a nominee who is Jewish, Baptist, Catholic, female, or black.



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    #18     Jul 26, 2011
  9. bone

    bone

    1. If there is such aversion to Mormons, how do you explain away Romney's success in Mass. ? One of the bluest of the blue states. Does not rationalize.

    2. Your analysis assumes Obama will enjoy the same momentum he did in 2008.

    From Wikipedia:

    Romney is the son of George W. Romney (the former Governor of Michigan) and Lenore Romney. He was raised in Bloomfield Hills, Michigan and then served as a Mormon missionary in France. He received his undergraduate degree from Brigham Young University, and thereafter earned joint Juris Doctor/Master of Business Administration degrees from Harvard Law School and Harvard Business School. Romney entered the management consulting business which led to a position at Bain & Company, eventually serving as its CEO to lead it out of crisis. He was also co-founder and head of the spin-off company Bain Capital, a private equity investment firm which became highly profitable and one of the largest such firms in the nation, and the wealth Romney accumulated there would help fund all of his future political campaigns. He ran as the Republican candidate in the 1994 U.S. Senate election in Massachusetts but lost to incumbent Ted Kennedy. Romney organized and steered the 2002 Winter Olympics as President and CEO of the Salt Lake Organizing Committee, and helped turn the troubled Games into a financial success.

    Romney won the election for Governor of Massachusetts in 2002, but did not seek reelection in 2006. During his term, he presided over a series of spending cuts and increases in fees that eliminated a projected $3 billion deficit without borrowing or raising taxes. He also signed into law the Massachusetts health care reform legislation, which provided near-universal health insurance access via subsidies and state-level mandates and was the first of its kind in the nation. During the course of his political career, his positions or rhetorical emphasis have shifted more towards American conservatism in several areas.

    Romney ran for the Republican nomination in the 2008 U.S. presidential election, winning several caucus and primary contests, but ultimately losing to John McCain. In the following years he published No Apology: The Case for American Greatness and gave speeches and raised campaign funds on behalf of fellow Republicans. On June 2, 2011, Romney announced that he would seek the 2012 Republican presidential nomination. Political observers and public opinion polls place him as a front-runner in the race.
     
    #19     Jul 26, 2011
  10. I see an approval coming our way.

     
    #20     Jul 26, 2011