Learning to trade ZB

Discussion in 'Financial Futures' started by Siwash, Oct 19, 2003.

  1. Siwash

    Siwash

    Great answer,
    I'm all for slow and steady..singles not home runs.


    thank you.
     
    #21     Oct 21, 2003
  2. has been trading ZB / ZN / ZF

    is harder than ES / NQ / YM

    good luck ...
     
    #22     Oct 21, 2003
  3. DblArrow

    DblArrow

    Most folks are using the trading pit times, 7:20 to 14:00 central time, to calculate the pivots and some are using the pit data, and still trade the electronic.

    Make 'em pretty, Chris
     
    #23     Oct 21, 2003
  4. jmis

    jmis

    thanks larry & DblArrow.
    what charting package do you use? and what are the active hours of zn/zb trading? same as pit? no matter what, i'm always glad to hear another trader doing well ;))

    dlbarrow, i seem to remember you scalped the es or nq before, does that style transfer well to zn or are you doing something else?

    jmis
     
    #24     Oct 22, 2003
  5. DblArrow

    DblArrow

    ACTIVE hours are the same as the pit.

    I tried something on the es a bit and it worked ok, but bonds are where I have always been and I prefer them. No that method of scalping does not transfer well to the notes or bonds.

    Make 'em pretty, Chris

    P.S. charting is sierra with IB.
     
    #25     Oct 22, 2003
  6. What is the initial stop-loss that you guys use for scalping ZBs? I have been watching ZBs for the last 3 days and I have noticed that my ES scalping system that uses 2 pts for the initial stop-loss (with targets of 3-4 pts) would work pretty well if I used 4 ZB ticks for the initial stop-loss with the targets of 6-10 ticks.

    So what do you guys use for the initial stop loss and the targets for your scalping?
     
    #26     Oct 22, 2003
  7. DblArrow

    DblArrow

    I like 5 ticks in the bonds and 10 ticks in the notes - 4 for me seems to get taken alot, perhaps it is that round # thing.

    Make 'em pretty, Chris
     
    #27     Oct 23, 2003
  8. It's incredible how well they trend. 30 ticks today and I am just starting. The simplest system that I was once using for ES and that is not that good anymore because of the ES range contraction and frequent headfakes works like a charm in bonds. I just feel guilty that I made money so easily.
     
    #28     Oct 23, 2003
  9. trade ZB or ZN options?

    is there any volume in the electronic version compared to the pits ?
     
    #29     Oct 23, 2003
  10. fuf

    fuf


    I'm glad you are doing well on the ZB! It took me about 6 months before I became profitable. But I was starting from scratch also, never trading before.

    Would you care to share your simplest system?

    I'm curious...
     
    #30     Oct 24, 2003