Learning to read Price Action with P&F Charting

Discussion in 'Strategy Building' started by HolyGrail, Mar 22, 2008.

  1. Very Good trading HolyGrail. I am going to do the reverse of using fundalmental news to find a stock and ta to know when to get in.

    Instead I will use for example pandf to find the stock, then do fa to determine if i want to invest / trade in it on a longer term basis.

    I did sell some of the stock that had a reversal signal to limit my risk, but may buy more at a better price or on a new bullish pandf signal.

    It seems none of you use S and R with pandf, but in my own system, I find it to be of some benefit.

     
    #951     Jun 5, 2008
  2. yayt

    yayt

    what do you mean by S and R ? Support and resistance ? I thought that's exactly what pnf made more clear
     
    #952     Jun 5, 2008
  3. I thought that PandF gave more clear signals vs candlesticks or other technical tools. But at least stockcharts will ignore support and resistance.

     
    #953     Jun 5, 2008
  4. If my target is small(3 points or less) I will consider s and r and take the easy profits right before it reaches that area. If I am playing a larger target I will not worry about s and r and just move my stops below the previous 0 column if long, or x column if short.
     
    #954     Jun 5, 2008
  5. yayt

    yayt

    Holy Grail, doesn't having your stop below the previous O column (or X column) expose you to potentially large losses (i.e. 10% or more?)
    Is this acceptable as part of your trading strategy?
    This is the one thing that's bothering me about PnF - I feel like, for my own personal trading, a better exit strategy is necessary.
     
    #955     Jun 5, 2008
  6. Your loss is never more than your original stop loss. You are moving that stop loss up as the price moves in your direction. If the risk is too much for your risk tolerance because the signal is far from where you would have to place your stop then don't take the trade.

    Before you take any trade you have to decide at what point you would be wrong in your original assessment, and compare it to your potential reward. If it is greater than one to one I will normally take the trade. I prefer higher, but my winning percentage on trades is greater than 60% so one to one will still yield a decent profit.
     
    #956     Jun 5, 2008
  7. Here is an example of what I am talking about and what your thought process should be. It's just an example because I would probably not take this long trade because it is counter trend. If I did take the trade it would be for the easy money to 44.
     
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    #957     Jun 5, 2008
  8. subq

    subq

    they are some of the most accurate "targets" I have seen...that is, comparing all sorts of methods for "targets" on trades
     
    #958     Jun 6, 2008
  9. subq

    subq

    P&F shows you support/resistance quite well actually

    it is a "pure" view of supply/demand
     
    #959     Jun 6, 2008
  10. subq

    subq

    Another great reason to use P&F, the risk/reward is very clear before you even take the trade...very objective. If the risk/reward is not to your liking, you pass on the trade.
     
    #960     Jun 6, 2008