Learning to read Price Action with P&F Charting

Discussion in 'Strategy Building' started by HolyGrail, Mar 22, 2008.

  1. dead on
     
    #781     May 15, 2008
  2. You should be home free if it makes it to 134. It's relative strength is not good right now so if we have a pull back this might get hurt more than the rest of the market.
     
    #782     May 15, 2008
  3. HooLee

    HooLee

    #783     May 15, 2008
  4. Yes I do. Hmm, we need to figure out the difference.
     
    #784     May 15, 2008
  5. It looks like the problem is on my end. I show rs to be 9046 you show 9056, but my chart does not reflect 9046
     
    #785     May 15, 2008
  6. HooLee

    HooLee

    I've noticed the differents before, and that's why I asked up about how your RS charts are constructed. We don't have control over the software we are using, this makes it hard to compare our views.

    Anyway, I agree that MOS is not as strong pattern as we like it to be in this breakout. I'll watch it closely. I do like the potential running to new high and the R/R ratio here.
     
    #786     May 15, 2008
  7. It's driving me nuts. There should not be that big of a difference in the pattern, especially considering the values are within .1.
     
    #787     May 15, 2008
  8. First newbe post.

    Per your pm suggestion, I've purchased bull's eye. I get my data from TC2000, which I have a great deal of confidence with.

    If you open the chart toolbox and change the Ratio Multiplier to 1000 (you probably have it on 10) you will get the same percentage changes as the stockcharts RS chart. The pattern however will not be the same as stockcharts, but yours is correct.

    Prior to purchasing bull's eye, I was using stockcharts for the P&F and RS charts. I have now found many many times that the stockcharts charts (both the P&F and RS) are different than mine created with TC2000 data. I really don't put any trust in the FREE stuff at stockcharts.
     
    #788     May 16, 2008
  9. relative strength calculation depends on the start date of the data.there is an option in updata to start it from the first date of the visible chart or the first date in the data set.i think that is where the difference might be
     
    #789     May 16, 2008
  10. HooLee

    HooLee

    Many things can cause the difference, such as:

    1. data reliability - just as Robert pointed out;
    2. data point(s) used - some use H and L, some use C only;
    3. reversal method - looking for continuation of current column first, or look at reversal first;
    4. starting point - this only affects the first few columns in the chart.

    Solutions? some thoughts here:

    1. multiple data sources - I have used Qcharts, eSignal and some other package, they all have "bad tick" from time to time;
    2. signal confirmation - other charting style, other box size, timeframe etc.
    3. do your own chart - old timers did it, some still doing it today, by hand;
    4. risk control - including position sizing.
     
    #790     May 16, 2008