Learning to read Price Action with P&F Charting

Discussion in 'Strategy Building' started by HolyGrail, Mar 22, 2008.

  1. Nice triangle forming on YM right now.
     
    #381     Mar 31, 2008
  2. Thanks dentist007. Given your reply and not just regarding forex, but any market, would it help to find the Average True Range of the time frame and use that as a GUIDE to selecting box size?

    Or is that flawed in it's approach?
     
    #382     Mar 31, 2008
  3. u might want to try 1 box reversal charts.you can take some good horizontal counts from intraday data
     
    #383     Mar 31, 2008
  4. ialwayslearn:
    why are you bothering with atr.this really has nothing to do with p/f.it is a calculated line
    u must look at the colun lengths.long columns make the chart unreadable.check out the book.it is a free preveiw on google
     
    #384     Mar 31, 2008
  5. HG - What are your thoughts on range bars? I have heard that they are similar to P&F charts, some say they are an extension thereon.

    Thoughts?
     
    #385     Mar 31, 2008
  6. Well I am done for the day. We had two fake triangle breakouts that turned a very good day into an ok day. Then I had a great trade that turned it back into a good day, and my last trade of the day gave back some of my winnings. Still a decent day, but should have been better.
     
    #386     Mar 31, 2008
  7. I have no thoughts on range bars. I like the method I am trading, and there is no way I would ever consider changing methods unless I have a 7 or 8 month losing streak.
     
    #387     Mar 31, 2008
  8. Dentist007

    You had said that you need to choose a box size that captures the VOLATILITY of the instrument.

    I was thinking that using ATR, H-L, etc. might be a more objective way of determing box size for a given market rather than saying a column is "too high" or "too low".

    I get the concept of what you are saying. I am not looking to re-invent the wheel.

    This has been a great thread so far and I was just throwing out some ideas to consider based on what you said about volatility.
     
    #388     Mar 31, 2008
  9. Just my opinion, but I think ATR WOULD be an excellent way to determine box size.
     
    #389     Mar 31, 2008
  10. ialwayslearn:
    first consider what reversal u want ot use.
    3box give good vertical counts and also good horizontal counts from a hi or lo .main ones
    1 box give good horizontal counts.no verticals
    to do good analysis u need to look at both
    vertical counts do not work well on 2,4 and 5 box counts
    next consider youre time horizon.longer /med then daily data either close only or hi/lo plot.best to choose close to start with.
    then by starting at a high box size u go down box sizes to expose the volatility and then look for trading signals
    45 degree trendlines are the strongest on 3 box reversal charts
    p/f charts allow you to extract the most information about the instrument than any other charting method
     
    #390     Mar 31, 2008