Learning to read Price Action with P&F Charting

Discussion in 'Strategy Building' started by HolyGrail, Mar 22, 2008.

  1. So far, the only one anyone has been able to come up with is Investor/rt. 5Pillars had to come up with that one.

    The problem is pnf is not something many people use, so I guess no one cares to add the proper features.

    Equis, the makers of metastock, has many bugs in their pnf charts. One is, during a fast market the damn thing will keep repeating columns over and over. That is why I got bulls eye broker because it can read metastock data. I would look at the charts in metastock and when things started repeating I would look at bulls eye broker to see the real correct columns and trend. I would have to keep hitting refresh in metastock, and then look at bulls eye.

    When I called equis about the problem they said that they were aware of the problem, thought they had already fixed it, but did not plan to do anymore work on pnf.

    I guess if enough people start requesting it they might feel the pressure. It probably won't happen anytime soon though.
     
    #301     Mar 27, 2008
  2. Man, there have been some really great signals on ES today. I sure hope this keeps up.
     
    #302     Mar 27, 2008
  3. mo-jord

    mo-jord

    Thanks for all your hard work HG!!!

    Can you tell me what you think about Investor R/T so far?

    Any bugs?? Reliable? Stable? etc.

    Thanks!
     
    #303     Mar 27, 2008
  4. Any chance you can provide some charts to show what you see on the ES today? After market close is fine.

    Thanks!
     
    #304     Mar 27, 2008
  5. I second that as A Great Idea.
     
    #305     Mar 27, 2008
  6. So far I like it, but I have only been using it three days so I am definitely not an expert. It seems very stable though. I still have a lot to learn about all the features.
     
    #306     Mar 27, 2008
  7. I was going to post some in real time today, but I am having all kinds of trouble annotating charts. I don't know what I am doing yet on this investor rt

    If I can, sometime after the close I will do it with bulls eye.
     
    #307     Mar 27, 2008

  8. Try Sierra Charts. They don't use "o's" and "x's", but I've been told that their PnF charts are extremely accurate.
     
    #308     Mar 27, 2008
  9. Thanks for your help to this thread Goinglite, and I do apoligize for my previous comments to you.
     
    #309     Mar 27, 2008
  10. Ok, I am going to post a .75 chart of ES today.
    I believe when you first get started in P&F, or if you want to just about always make money trade these signals, and ONLY THESE SIGNALS. Normally you will get at least 1-3 a day. If you feel that you can't make enough money with that many trades then increase your contract size.

    What I always do is take a position on the reversing double bottom breakout signal, and then try to add contracts on the retrace.

    I normally just place a 3 to 5 point target on this. A target of 3 from the first breakout. Any additions will still have the same target, but hopefully it will be from a better price.

    Now remember my target is 3 based on a .75 chart. If you use a .5 I would lower that target, and if you use a 1.0 I would increase that target.

    EDIT: by just trading these signals you don't have to go through the trouble of buying new software so you can have trendlines.
     
    #310     Mar 27, 2008