Learning to read Price Action with P&F Charting

Discussion in 'Strategy Building' started by HolyGrail, Mar 22, 2008.

  1. PaulRon

    PaulRon

    hey HG

    I am a new trader and want to practice P&F on old markets. What software would you use for backtesting P&F? Thanks dude
     
    #281     Mar 26, 2008
  2. MAESTRO

    MAESTRO

    hey, HG. I personally do not subscribe to the P&F theory, but I like very much your methodical approach to it! I enjoy your posts. I think they educate people well! So, good luck to you.
     
    #282     Mar 26, 2008
  3. Well I think I may have figured out what to do on low range days. I added a .25 chart for entry and traded off the .5. It wasn't a great day, but I did manage to catch a few moves for 2-3 points with mostly 4-5 tick moves so at least something gets added to the bottom line.

    When there are quick moves the .25 goes beserk so I don't recommend it on a regular basis, but at least it kept me involved, I kept to my signals that I wanted to trade. No experiments.
     
    #283     Mar 26, 2008
  4. Hopefully someone can answer this. All of my tests have been manual forward testing of various patterns.
     
    #284     Mar 26, 2008
  5. Thanks Maestro. It's the only thing that helped me understand price movement. No matter what system you use you still have to manage your trade. Entry is the easy part, knowing when to get the hell out is the part that determines success.
     
    #285     Mar 26, 2008
  6. MAESTRO

    MAESTRO

    I see that. It's good that you found something that you believe in. And, as I said, I like the fact that you are very methodical with it. Good for you man! I wish other people could learn to be that methodical. Good Luck!
     
    #286     Mar 26, 2008
  7. Ok I really want to talk about trendlines, and the breaking of trendlines. What I am about to say you may disagree with in principle, and that is ok. This is my opinion from trading with these charts.

    It is absolutely essential that your trendlines are drawn at 45 degrees, but also, it is essential your software handles this properly. If the boxes on your chart are not perfectly proportioned correctly your trendline will not be a proper. For those using quote tracker or metastock I can tell you immediately that their trendlines are inaccurate.

    Now, here is a question that puzzled me for ages. When is there a REAL trendline break? I'm talking about one you can trade on a reliable basis. Now this doesn't come from any book, this again is just my opinion, so take it as such.

    On an uptrend, the trend is NOT BROKEN until the top of the x column fails to stay above the trendline.

    Vice versa on a downtrend.

    Now does this mean you stay in the stock and ride out the potential loss? That is up to you. I just want you to have a better idea when a trend is truly broken(imo) so you don't buy the first time you see an x cross over a previous downtrend. The market loves to shake you out and if it can it WILL.
     
    #287     Mar 26, 2008
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  8. I want to make sure that I emphasize this trend break I am talking about is pretty much for a new entry. Don't short or go long on a trend break until you get confirmation, and then buy on the next pnf signal you get.

    I am not advocating holding when you get a trendline penetration if you are already in a trade. That is a personal choice. All I am saying is if it is within your risk tolerance to hold until the next column you can see if you get the confirmation or not. Make your decision after the confirmation if it is at all possible and withing your risk parameters.
     
    #288     Mar 26, 2008

  9. I would understand this more if there is some chart. Can anyone plese post a chart to make it clear. This looks very very important concept to me so it is better for me to understand properly.
     
    #289     Mar 27, 2008
  10. HG

    you said about trend lines

    It is absolutely essential that your trendlines are drawn at 45 degrees


    I donot understand the concept why trend lines should be at 45 degrees.
     
    #290     Mar 27, 2008