Learning to read Price Action with P&F Charting

Discussion in 'Strategy Building' started by HolyGrail, Mar 22, 2008.

  1. probalby should have taken a small profit on CLX when I had the chance, but I think it may come back. if not I'll sell when it gives a reversal signal.
     
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    #1241     Oct 7, 2008
  2. nhaupt

    nhaupt

    untd trade taken at 9.00
    s/l set at 10.5

    i really like the size of the consolidation ahead of the breakdown. although there seems to be resistance close by from two years back. ill keep this one on a short leash with the falling vix.
     
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    #1242     Oct 7, 2008
  3. how many shares are you trading Nhaupt?

    shorted the following today.
    APH @ 33.00
    MEOH @ 16.25
    NFG @ 34.92
    PWR @ 18.51

    http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.pnf?c=APH,PLTADANRBO[PA][D][F1!3!!!2!20][J152821826,Y]&listNum=31

    http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.pnf?c=MEOH,PLTADANRBO[PA][D][F1!3!!!2!20][J152821827,Y]&listNum=31

    http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.pnf?c=NFG,PLTADANRBO[PA][D][F1!3!!!2!20][J152821828,Y]&listNum=31

    http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.pnf?c=PWR,PLTADANRBO[PA][D][F1!3!!!2!20][J152821829,Y]&listNum=31
     
    #1243     Oct 8, 2008
  4. yayt

    yayt

    It's unfortunate that you bought these right before what may be a strong day, lol

    I like NFG - it has a long way to go, I'd consider scaling out/placing tighter stops around 28
     
    #1244     Oct 9, 2008
  5. Yea I had a feeling early this morning that they might go the wrong way today.

    Turned on Cramer last night and he was just getting done recommending buying PWR. I didn't know wether to get out or double up on it.:cool: but he was right for the short term, it really went up this morning.

    He also recommended KMP, another one I shorted but got out of a couple days ago for a good profit.. It really went up also. Will be interesting to see if they continue up or go back down.

    Still having trouble knowing when to take profits. did good on KMP, but left a lot on the table with OKE and NXY.
     
    #1245     Oct 9, 2008
  6. #1246     Oct 9, 2008
  7. Closed all my trades today.
    APH @ $29.00
    MEOH @ 13.50
    NFG @ 29.00
    PWR @ 17.25

    Probably could have taken more today, but have to be gone next week, so I wanted to get out with a decent profit.

    I realize a monkey could have thrown darts at a list of stocks and got a better % shorting, but to be able to make a profit whichever way the market goes is a whole new realm to me.

    Unfortunately, CCIX, TSCO, CLX and MINI kicked my butt when I was foolish enough to try going long in this market. At least it was an inexpensive lesson.
     
    #1247     Oct 10, 2008
  8. Does anyone else care to show some of their trades using pnf? And why the took them?
    My biggest problem is getting out of a bad trade. I'm taking too big of a loss before I get out.
    Enclosed are my other trades

    MINI bought 24.75 sold 18.01
    TSCO 44.15 37.24
    CCIX 13.09 9.10
    CLX 62.84 54.00
    LSR 34.82 35.32

    NXY short 22.70 closed 20.20
    BLL 41.52 38.50
    OKE 33.98 29.34
    KMP 52.86 42.86
    PHG 27.25 21.99


    Long trades were all a week to two in duration and short trades were a couple days in duration.
    All the shorts were taken after they fell below the support line. I left a lot on the table on the first three I took (NXY, BLL and OKE)
     
    #1248     Oct 10, 2008
  9. nhaupt

    nhaupt

    closed out untd for 1.60 per share
    flying led im still learning, so i trade very few shares. im still unhappy with my exits, based on emotion more than anything else, even if they were right in the short term in this instance.
     
    #1249     Oct 10, 2008
  10. Same here, lower size trades make it more fun and with less pressure, I can see a little more clearly.

    On the short sales, something just clicked when yayt mentioned a long way to move on NFG down to 28. Looking horizontally across the chart, one can see support at that price.

    I know I read that before, and wrote it down somewhere to take that into consideration, but sometimes it just doesn't stick in ones mind till he uses it some.

    On your trade, looking back to 04 and 05, one can see support at $7.00 so I'm guessing you took profit at the right spot.

    Its amazing looking back how many of my stocks went down to a level of support from earlier periods and went back up from there.

    Have fun, I'm gonna be out of it next week. Thankfully, cause right now I think it could bounce around and go quite a ways in any direction.
     
    #1250     Oct 10, 2008