Learn To Take Losses

Discussion in 'Risk Management' started by ironchef, Mar 18, 2024.

  1. ondafringe

    ondafringe

    1. Go to the bank and withdraw a few hundred dollars in small bills
    2. Walk outside, throw it up in the air, and watch the wind blow it all away

    When you can do that, and not get sick at your stomach, you've got the losing part down. :D
     
    #61     Mar 20, 2024
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  2. taowave

    taowave

    Sounds like you arent trading big enough,or you have a high pain threshold



     
    #62     Mar 20, 2024
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  3. deaddog

    deaddog

    You set your stop where the market has proved you wrong.

    For whatever reason you have entered a trade, when you look at the chart or orderflow there must be a point where the trade is no longer valid. That's whwere your stop is.

    Digging deeper, what is it that you are afraid of? What is worse in your mind, losing money or being wrong? I know it hurts when you close a trade and the market reverses the next second.
    It's something that you remember, but how many times does it actually happen.

    Look at your last 100 trades and see how often it actually happens. Get an actual number. You might be surprised at how often it actually happens. If it turns out to be a big number then you might have to rethink where you are placing your stops or where you are entering the trade.

    How about the other side of the equation? Are you selling too early and cutting your winners short?
     
    #63     Mar 20, 2024
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  4. schizo

    schizo

    Ughhh, tell me about it. This happens quite a lot actually. You know what's even worse though? It can happen to not only your exit stop but also your entry stop.
    1. Stop loss: it invariably gets hit and then the damn price quickly reverses.
    2. Entry stop: price comes sooooooooooooo close to my entry price (or profit target) but reverses.
    WTF?!!
     
    #64     Mar 20, 2024
  5. tiddlywinks

    tiddlywinks


    That suggests your placement is in what some call "in the noise".

    Wouldn't it be great if there was something to use to show how "noisy" a particular price level was in the recent past? It would need to be something that can't be seen with only past "price action"... Maybe something like volume by price would help. :)
     
    #65     Mar 20, 2024
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  6. %%
    THAT's a good trend or great trend, or super trend for you;
    sideways slop-chop, shorts[inverse ETFs] trends ,stick to the battle tested plan.
    IF that market really ''reversed '' a lot after our stops,[LOL happens some];
    scale out@ least twice, or + have Re-enter plan.
    FED days are known for whipsaws..........
    SPY benchmark stronger longer than usual , most FEBs are down.
    MUR had a new Hershey's choc display, retail with no prices=looked like a trap for hi prices LOL, but i did not ask price LOL:D:D
     
    #66     Mar 20, 2024
  7. Jzwu2017

    Jzwu2017

    I have built a few templates in TOS, such as stop at 1 unit ($) and target at 2 units ($) and stop at 0.5 unit and target at 1 unit, etc. Usually, it’s 1:2 risk/reward ratio. I choose how big a position to enter, say 100 shares or 200. If the market clearly goes my way I add another position. Depending on what I expect market to move I pick a template for each trade. Often I have to adjust stop/target while in a trade but as a rule never widen the stop. When market conditions change I build more templates as needed.

    Once in a trade you need to manage it even with preset stop/target. Sometimes I enter a trade and immediately realize it’s a wrong trade so I just exit right there not waiting for the stop to be hit. Be flexible. The templates are just a tool to help you control loss and take profit to reduce manual work and the need to make decisions in a trade.

    I have determined to never trade without a preset stop (target). Too many big loss lessons finally learned.
     
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    #67     Mar 20, 2024
  8. Jzwu2017

    Jzwu2017

    LOL this happened to me so many times as if the market knows exactly what you’re trying to do.
     
    #68     Mar 20, 2024
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  9. I had a big loss last Thursday. Took Friday off. Then had sushi (flown in from Japan!). I treat myself to nice things to counteract the depression/frustration. And I know this sounds weird, but I super brush my teeth, shave, shower, massage, etc.

    To let the Universe know, YOU CAN'T FUCK WITH ME.

    The rest of the time, I am following Tom Brady's boring ass diet, and get 9 hours of sleep, etc. Google it!

    O-Toro flown in from Japan does WONDERS!!!
     
    #69     Mar 20, 2024
  10. Jzwu2017

    Jzwu2017

    Good for you! I try to remain positive after a big loss. No sushi from Japan though.
     
    #70     Mar 20, 2024
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