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Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Apr 24, 2020.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #551     Jan 14, 2021
  2. jem

    jem

    nothing new there. those were the arguments I read.
    nothing there about immunity
    nothing there about transmission to others

    In fact nothing there that says it prevents people from being infected.
    As I addressed.

    I have no idea why people are saying these vaccines grant immunity.
    I don't think we have proof of that yet.




     
    #552     Jan 14, 2021
  3. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/01/15/trump-vaccine-reserve-used-up/
    Vaccine reserve was already exhausted when Trump administration vowed to release it, dashing hopes of expanded access
    States were anticipating a windfall after federal officials said they would stop holding back second doses. But the approach had already changed, and no stockpile exists.

    When Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar announced this week that the federal government would begin releasing coronavirus vaccine doses held in reserve for second shots, no such reserve existed, according to state and federal officials briefed on distribution plans. The Trump administration had already begun shipping out what was available beginning at the end of December, taking second doses directly off the manufacturing line.


     
    #553     Jan 15, 2021
  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    The Trump administration straight up lied about having a reserve of the vaccine.

    All the while they were blaming states for distribution problems and accepting no responsibility.

    At some point... these type of public health deceptions during a national crisis should lead to criminal charges for public officials.
     
    #554     Jan 15, 2021
  5. Wallet

    Wallet

    Health Experts Call For Suspension Of Pfizer Vaccination Among Elderly After Norway Deaths


    Update (1630ET): In what can only be described as a somewhat concerning turn of events, health experts from Wuhan, China, called on Norway and other countries to suspend the use of mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccines produced by companies such as Pfizer, especially among elderly people (following the surge in deaths in Norway described below)

    .......

    As we detailed earlier, Norway health authorities are reporting COVID-19 vaccine news of monumental importance at a moment the US is rushing to get an initial some 30 million doses into the arms of the elderly and those with chronic health conditions: sick patients over 80 are particularly at risk for devastating side effects.

    Thus for this vulnerable demographic which is currently first in line in North America, the "cure" could be worse than the disease. Bloomberg notes that it's "the most cautious statement yet from a European health authority" regarding potential adverse vaccine health risks.

    More at.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/...r-vaccine-risks-elderly-frail-after-23-deaths
     
    #555     Jan 15, 2021
  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Zero Hedge - a Russian propaganda outlet.

    Note that the only entities calling for mRNA vaccines are countries manufacturing alternative vaccines that are much less effective. As noted in Brazil recently the leading Chinese vaccine is only 50% effective which medical experts stated make close to worthless.

    This is just countries trying to push their political agenda via vaccines and nothing more. Just an attempt to undermine western countries in their quest for world power.
     
    #556     Jan 16, 2021

  7. There are a lot of sins and politics to go around with this vaccine stuff. The idea of the Chinese criticizing other countries for not doing adequate trials and releasing vaccine should immediately be laughed right off the stage. They develop their own shiite, then order the army to take it, and it is looks somewhat good they sell it bigtime to countries around the world that they are trying to colonize by being the covid savior.

    Having said that. Norway has its own mrna vaccine and did not include any or at least many very elderly- over 85- in their studies. So they are on thin ice there. Similar to American cdc and other scientists who objected to approval of some covid drugs on people younger than 18 because the trial studies had not included that age group. You might still decide to do it in an emergency but, as I said, you are on thin ice, and it should cause you to be more responsive to issues as they arise.

    What is the Chinese data on their vaccines and the elderly? You don't know. Everything is either completely groovy with them, or they have released reams of bogus data, or they tell you to buzz off if you want to see data. Always some crooked game.

    One of the concerns with the very elderly, is that almost all of the vaccines mimic a small case of covid. Such that it creates antibodies and so forth. So the side effects are - with the exception of allergic reactions to fillers- a result of having to deal with that micro-case of covid that a vaccine creates and is expected to clear up in 48 hours or less.

    So it does not surprise me that some very elderly cannot handle the vaccine or handle it well anyway. The problem is, if they cannot handle the vaccine it is highly doubtful that they can handle a full case of covid. Therein lies the dilemma.

    Which brings us full circle. If all of the countries around the world did full trial testing on complete age group populations and full sharing of data then we could figure out what worked best for each agre group and what the true efficacy was. If only there were a worldwide organization that did all of that- free of politics- all countries could chip in- and they would drive a consistency in standards and data sharing, especially for lesser developed countries who lack the resources to assess or research themselves. I dunno. We could call it the World Health Organization or something zippy like that. But, no, we let the Chinese run it into the ground for their own purposes, and Joe is about to help them continue.
     
    #557     Jan 16, 2021
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  8. LacesOut

    LacesOut

    You don’t even know what 95% effective means. Stop spouting and spreading lies.
     
    #558     Jan 16, 2021
  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Trump administration accused of deception in pledging release of vaccine stockpile
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-idUSKBN29K2H4

    The governors of several states accused the Trump administration on Friday of deception in pledging to immediately distribute millions of COVID-19 vaccine doses from a stockpile that the U.S. health secretary has since acknowledged does not exist.

    Confusion over a vaccine supply windfall that was promised to governors but failed to materialize arose as scattered shortages emerged on the frontlines of the most ambitious and complex immunization campaign in U.S. history, prompting at least one large New York healthcare system to cancel a slew of inoculation appointments.

    Just 10.6 million Americans have received a shot since federal regulators last month granted emergency approval to two vaccines, one from Pfizer Inc and BioNTech and a second from Moderna Inc, the Centers of Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reported.

    That tally falls far short of the 20 million vaccinations the Trump administration had promised to administer by the end of 2020, as the COVID-19 pandemic raged virtually unchecked with ever-increasing record numbers of infections, hospitalizations and deaths.

    The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines each require an initial dose and a booster shot given about three weeks apart.

    Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar had said on Tuesday that the administration would release millions of doses it had been holding in reserve for booster shots in order to help spur a sluggish rollout of first doses to those most in need of the vaccine.

    Azar said then that the administration was confident enough in the supply chain to release its stockpile, and urged states to use the additional supply to open inoculations to everyone aged 65 and over.

    ‘DECEPTION ON A NATIONAL SCALE’


    Many states obliged, but on Friday a number of governors said they were dismayed to learn that no stockpile existed.

    “Last night I received disturbing news, confirmed to me directly by General (Gustave) Perna of Operation Warp Speed: states will not be receiving increased shipments of vaccines from the national stockpile next week, because there is no federal reserve of doses,” Oregon Governor Kate Brown said on Twitter.

    “This is a deception on a national scale,” Brown added, demanding an explanation from the outgoing administration.

    The Washington Post reported on Friday that the federal government ran down its vaccine reserve in late December and has no remaining reserves of doses on hand.

    California Governor Gavin Newsom, appearing at Dodger Stadium in Los Angeles for the opening of a mass-inoculation site, said Azar and Vice President Mike Pence had committed on a conference call this week with governors to releasing a vaccine reserve that Newsom said had included some 50 million doses stored in Michigan.

    “And then we read, as everybody else, that they have reneged on that, or for whatever reason are unable to deliver on that,” Newsom said.

    Brown and Newsom’s comments were echoed by at least eight other governors, most of them fellow Democrats, including Wisconsin Governor Tony Evers, who called the situation a “slap in the face.” Colorado Governor Jared Polis said he was “extremely disappointed” that Azar had “lied to” his state.

    Azar suggested in an interview with NBC News on Friday that the doses in question had already been allocated to the states.

    “We now have enough confidence that our ongoing production will be quality and available to provide the second dose for people,” the HHS secretary said. “So we’re not sitting on a reserve anymore. We’ve made that available to the states to order.”

    Pfizer said it has been holding on to second doses at the request of the federal government and anticipated no problems supplying them to Americans.

    “Operation Warp Speed has asked us to start shipping second doses only recently. As a result, we have on hand all the second doses of the previous shipments to the U.S.,” a company spokeswoman said in a statement.

    RACE AGAINST CONTAGION

    The latest stumble in the vaccine campaign came as the number of known U.S. infections of the virus that causes COVID-19 surpassed 23 million, more than 388,000 of which have proven fatal, according to a Reuters tally.

    Adding to anxieties over the pace of immunizations, the CDC warned on Friday that a new, highly transmissible variant of the virus sweeping Britain could become the dominant form in the United States by March.

    In New York, the country’s most populous city, Mayor Bill de Blasio said the city has vaccinated about 300,000 of its more than 8 million residents, but was on course to run dry next week because it was burning through vaccines faster than they were being replenished.

    At least one New York City healthcare system, Mount Sinai Hospital, canceled vaccination appointments, and another, NYU Langone Health, suspended new ones amid shortages, officials said.

    In Los Angeles, Governor Newsom joined Mayor Eric Garcetti and other officials in launching a mass inoculation site at Dodger Stadium, an operation they said would be the largest in the nation, administering 12,000 shots a day by next week.

    The baseball arena, which had been devoted to drive-through diagnostic testing for months, is one of several vaccine “super stations” opening across California, home to 40 million people and a U.S. epicenter of the pandemic in recent weeks.

    President-elect Joe Biden, who takes office on Wednesday, said on Friday he would order increased production of syringes and other supplies to accelerate a vaccine rollout that he has called a “dismal failure.”

    He has set the goal of immunizing 100 million Americans, about a third of the population, within the first 100 days of his administration.
     
    #559     Jan 16, 2021
  10. Wallet

    Wallet

    Zerohedge! Zerohedge, Russia, Russia, Russia.....

    Hey Jan, why don’t you just click the Bloomberg link.

    World
    Norway Warns of Vaccination Risks for Sick Patients Over 80

    Norway said Covid-19 vaccines may be too risky for the very old and terminally ill, the most cautious statement yet from a European health authority as countries assess the real-world side effects of the first shots to gain approval.

    Norwegian officials said 23 people had died in the country a short time after receiving their first dose of the vaccine. Of those deaths, 13 have been autopsied, with the results suggesting that common side effects may have contributed to severe reactions in frail, elderly people, according to the Norwegian Medicines Agency.


    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...f-vaccination-risks-for-sick-patients-over-80
     
    #560     Jan 16, 2021