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Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Apr 24, 2020.

  1. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    remember when Trump blamed Obama for his coronavirus?
     
    #501     Jan 3, 2021
  2. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    I remember when Trump blamed Obama for "broken testing" even though there was no Covid-19 nor a Pandemic in 2016 - 2017 (Obama last day as President was Jan 20th 2017).

    In fact, he blamed Obama or other things too that was related to the Pandemic while the Trump administration try to hide the fact that they trash can the Obama Pandemic Management plan in 2018 prior to the Covid-19 Pandemic. :rolleyes: :wtf: :banghead:

    A big Ooops by the Trump administration. Thus, they were not prepared when China alerted the world about Covid in December 2019 and the Trump administration failed to do any thing in January and February 2020...

    Worst, with all of China and other countries freaking out about Covid...the United States still did not have a plan when the first infection case occurred in the state of Washington and spreading along the west coast while the it was secretly spreading in the east from travelers that came in from Europe.

    About the same time as the United States first known Covid-19 infection...South Korea had its first known Covid-19 infection not that far from a closed United States military base. South Korea immediately initiated their Infectious Disease plan, made face mask wearing mandatory, social distancing mandatory, education info begin to gear up for education of the South Korean people about what was going on...
    • As a precaution measure.
    I know this because my military friends in the U.S. military that decided to remain in South Korea (they're married to South Korean women) after they completed their military contracts...we stay in close contact and they emailed me to find out what Canada and United States were doing in preparation to fight Covid...

    I replied...nothing right now and the borders are still wide open for travel from China and Europe. They were shocked.
    • The world was going into protection mode in February while the United States was downplaying the threat in February, March and April...continuing doing such at rallies via calling it a Democrat Hoax.
    In fact, in February...the United States became concerned about American citizens on cruise ships...it begin some evacuation of American citizens...quarantine only those that were "feeling sick" but not testing all.

    We would later learn that many people with Covid are asymptomatic or mild symptoms (cough, headache or mild fever that last only a day) but highly infectious (spreading the virus to others)...cruise ship Americans were then allowed to return home without any testing nor follow-up about the health.



    In comparison to other countries...the United States had a poor response to Covid-19 threat because we had no plan, no contact tracing, low on PPE and were focus on downplaying it when other countries began ramping up their protection.

    Still shocking to hear people say that the United States was prepared and couldn't have done anything more in the beginning...its comical in comparison to countries like New Zealand, Japan, Taiwan and South Korea.
    • Thankfully the Trump administration will no longer occupy the White House on January 20th and America can properly deal with the Covid-19 threat...it will start with fixing the broken vaccine distribution that was promise to +20 million American by end of 2020 but only 2.8 million got vaccinated. :banghead:
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    #502     Jan 3, 2021
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  3. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

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    #503     Jan 3, 2021
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  4. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    #504     Jan 3, 2021
  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #505     Jan 3, 2021
  6. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    #506     Jan 3, 2021
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    The people pushed to the front of the line were neither elderly or front-line workers.

    But I will note that Florida is even worse.... donors and supporters of DeSantis and GOP are pushed to the front of the line over elderly residents.
     
    #507     Jan 3, 2021
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Feds may cut Moderna vaccine doses in half so more people get shots, Warp Speed adviser says
    Federal officials have said the U.S. will need to vaccinate roughly 80 percent of the population to achieve herd immunity against the coronavirus.
    https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/03/moderna-vaccine-doses-warp-speed-half-453979

    The federal government is in talks with Moderna about giving half the recommended dose of the company's Covid-19 shot to speed up immunization efforts, the head of the Trump administration's vaccine rollout said on Sunday.

    Operation Warp Speed chief adviser Moncef Slaoui said there is evidence that two half doses in people between the ages of 18 and 55 gives “identical immune response” to the recommended one hundred micorogram dose, but said the final decision will rest with the FDA.

    “It will be based on facts and data to immunize more people,” Slaoui said on CBS' "Face the Nation," adding, ”of course we continue to produce more vaccine doses.”

    His remarks came amid intensifying concern that the Covid vaccine distribution has been slower than expected, with the Trump administration missing its initial goal of vaccinating 20 million Americans by the end of 2020. So far, just over 4 million Americans have received their first of two Covid shots, and another 13 million doses have been delivered to states, according to the CDC.

    Federal officials have said the U.S. will need to vaccinate roughly 80 percent of the population to achieve herd immunity against the coronavirus and are looking for ways to quickly ramp up immunization efforts as cases continue to soar. The U.S. has reported more than 20.4 million cases and 350,000 deaths so far.

    Earlier Sunday, top federal infectious disease expert Anthony Fauci cautioned that the government shouldn't deviate from the doses and schedules used in clinical trials on the vaccines, adding that distribution efforts need to be more efficient.

    "We know what the science tells us," Fauci said on NBC's "Meet the Press," without directly addressing Slaoui's suggestion. "So my feeling ... is let's do it the way the clinical trials have instructed us to do it. But let's get more efficient into getting it into people's arms."

    Fauci and Surgeon General Jerome Adams said they are working with governors to ramp up vaccinations.

    “We have to understand that this virus also occurred in the midst of a surge. And a lot of the local capacity to be able to vaccinate was being used for testing and responding to surges," Adams said on CNN’s "State of the Union." “But the good news is that we're seeing it quickly ramp up, thanks to our state partners. “

    The U.S., like most countries, has held back half of its supplies of Covid vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna, to ensure that everyone who received their first dose receives the second dose. Meanwhile, the U.K., last week shifted its guidance to get as many people as possible their first dose, while potentially delaying the second dose, sparking concern among scientists who say there is no evidence to suggest the vaccine is effective without completing the full regimen.

    Slaoui balked at the idea of taking a similar approach in the U.S., saying it would not be responsible to give initial doses without ensuring people get their second dose without data to back it up.
     
    #508     Jan 4, 2021
  9. userque

    userque

    Name one medical treatment you received; that you'd be ok with only getting half the tested, recommended, and prescribed dose?

    Now, all of a sudden, half the dose will do ya.

    Clown chapter "Warp Speed" of the Clown show: Trump.

    Doofus should have made the proper purchases up front, like competent nations did.
     
    #509     Jan 4, 2021
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    I am beginning to think that this proposed plan from Trump's "Warp Speed" advisor merely has the intent to undermine the entire vaccination process as the president is sent packing from the White House. Certainly the pharma companies don't appear to be supporting it.
     
    #510     Jan 4, 2021
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