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Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Apr 24, 2020.

  1. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    America First!!
     
    #301     Nov 16, 2020
  2. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    eat it Moderna:
     
    #302     Nov 18, 2020
  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Distribution in the U.S. -- No Federal government help or plan
    Bottom Line:
    • The Trump administration has done no planning for the distribution of the vaccine. They simply threw up their hands and said "private companies will figure it out".
    • "States say they need more than $8 billion from the federal government to promote and distribute vaccines." Amount allocated = $0.
    • "The federal government has not told states how many doses they will receive, hampering their ability to plan for which of many priority populations should get vaccinated first. " -- No information whatsoever from the federal government on how many doses. The federal government required states submit a plan on who in their populations have priority but have heard nothing back yet from the feds.
    • There are also data privacy issues to overcome with some states -- "Nearly a dozen states still have not agreed to share patient data with the federal Centers for Disease Control, citing privacy concerns, meaning it will be hard for the federal government to track who has been vaccinated and who still needs a second dose."
    Inoculations by December? States aren’t so sure.
    While Trump promises tens of millions of vaccine doses next month, many states say they aren’t ready to administer them.
    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/18/covid-vaccines-december-states-437168
     
    #303     Nov 18, 2020
  4. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    I almost prefer it that way. Distribution contracts would otherwise go to Trump Inc. of some mypillow like grifting sycophant
     
    #304     Nov 18, 2020
  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Take a look at Europe -- in Germany they are setting up hundreds of government vaccination centers in December to start vaccinating in January. Putting all those unused entertainment venues to use for mass vaccinations. They expect to have everyone vaccinated by the end of March if everything goes on schedule.
     
    #305     Nov 18, 2020
  6. Cuddles

    Cuddles

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    #306     Nov 18, 2020
  7. Trump saved the World.
     
    #307     Nov 18, 2020
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  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Dr. Fauci says vaccinating people who disregard Covid as ‘fake news’ could be ‘a real problem’
    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/19/cor...id-as-fake-news-could-be-a-real-problem-.html
    • White House coronavirus advisor Dr. Anthony Fauci said that convincing people who consider the coronavirus to be “fake news” to get vaccinated against the disease could become an issue.
    • Fauci said in a published interview with The New York Times that he was “stunned” people in certain parts of the country with devastating outbreaks still consider the pandemic to be fake.
    • “Despite a quarter million deaths, despite more than 11 million infections, despite 150,000 new infections a day, they don’t believe it’s real. That is a real problem,” Fauci said.
    White House coronavirus advisor Dr. Anthony Fauci said Thursday that convincing people who consider the coronavirus to be “fake news” to get vaccinated against the disease could become an issue as the nation seeks to achieve so-called herd immunity to suppress the pandemic.

    “They actually don’t think that this is a problem,” Fauci said during a conversation with The Hastings Center. “Despite a quarter million deaths, despite more than 11 million infections, despite 150,000 new infections a day, they don’t believe it’s real. That is a real problem.”

    Fauci’s comments with The Hastings Center are similar to those published in an interview with The New York Times on Thursday where the nation’s leading infectious disease expert said he was “stunned” that people in certain parts of the country with devastating Covid-19 outbreaks still consider the pandemic to be fake.

    Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, has estimated that at least 75% of the country will need to be vaccinated against Covid-19, though ideally that figure would be higher. Those estimations come even as companies like Pfizer and Moderna report promising preliminary data showing their vaccines to be more than 90% effective in preventing Covid-19.

    “What I would like to see is the overwhelming majority of people get vaccinated so we can essentially really crush this outbreak,” Fauci told The New York Times’ DealBook conference Tuesday.

    Fauci has reiterated that it will be a challenge to convince some Americans to receive a coronavirus vaccine. A new Gallup poll released Tuesday found that 58% of surveyed adults said they would get vaccinated once it’s available. While that’s an increase from findings in September, it’s still lower than the 66% who said they would get inoculated earlier in the pandemic.

    “If we have an effective vaccine and 50% of the people don’t take it, you still have a considerable public health challenge,” Fauci said Tuesday at the DealBook conference.

    “Because the way you get an outbreak under control, to bring it down to such a minimal level it’s no longer a threat, you have to have a blanket of protection over the community with the vaccine that is the overwhelming majority of the community,” he said.

    The Gallup survey, however, was conducted from Oct. 19 to Nov. 1, before Pfizer and Moderna released their promising vaccine results. Fauci has said he hopes more people will be willing to take the vaccines after they’ve proven to be highly effective.

    Some Americans have shown concern about the historic speed with which the federal government, under the Trump administration’s Operation Warp Speed, has developed and manufactured the vaccines. A CNBC poll in September also found that most voters were concerned that President Donald Trump was trying to rush the vaccine’s approval process before the Nov. 3 Election Day.

    “The speed itself is a reflection of scientific advances. In other words, the technology of making a vaccine is not your grandfather’s technology. It’s the 21st century technology,” Fauci said Thursday.

    Additionally, data from the vaccines’ trials are evaluated by an external and independent data safety monitoring board that is “beholden to no one,” Fauci said. Once the data is revealed to the drugmakers and other government agencies, it’s presented to career scientists at the U.S. Food and Drug Administration for approval along with an independent Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee, he said.

    “By the time you get the FDA deeming that this is a safe and efficacious vaccine, you’ve had a independent and transparent process decide,” Fauci said. “We’ve got to keep hammering that home because for the group of people who are concerned about the process, the process is sound.”
     
    #308     Nov 19, 2020

  9. I don't know. This article and Fauci are kind of weaselly, I think. It seeks to make the case or single out people who think that covid is fake (you are supposed to read that as "Trump voters") as the reason why there is vaccination reluctance.

    But if you look at the actual Gallop Poll cited in the article (I quoted an excerpt below) and add up the categories of reluctance, about 75% of people who are resistant say that it is based on fears about the safety of the vaccine- not because they believe covid is a hoax.

    In other words, the issues seem to fall squarely within the area of Fauci's responsibilities- ie. if you want to achieve greater vaccination levels, you Dr. Fauci, need to do your job and oversee the introduction of vaccines that have convincing levels of safety- and knock off the bullshit about how the big problem is stupid people who just don't believe that covid exists.

    Methinks.




    Americans' Reasons to Not Get a COVID-19 Vaccine
    In a follow-up question, 37% of Americans who would not get a vaccine say the rushed timeline for the development of the vaccine is the main reason they would not be vaccinated. Another 26% say they want to wait to confirm the vaccine is safe. Rounding out the reasons for some Americans' hesitancy are 12% saying they don't trust vaccines in general and 10% who want to wait to see how effective the vaccine will be. An additional 15% cite other reasons for not getting a COVID-19 vaccine. Included among these reasons are the politicization of the vaccine potentially comprising its safety and the view that the vaccine is not necessary.
     
    #309     Nov 19, 2020
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  10. Exactly. Vaccines normally take years to develop, in some cases a vaccine is never found. Like magic we have one coming to market in months, not years, and it's a vaccine for a virus that reportedly has more mysteries and anomalies to it than any other virus known to man. Should come as no surprise that the internal bullshit meter people have is pegged out.
     
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    #310     Nov 19, 2020
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