Any reasonable person should hope this vaccine works as well as it's being now advertised and hits the market sooner that later. No, I will not be among the first lab rats to take it, but just having it available should be a big boost to getting us past lockdown status which should be everyone's goal.
I think the far-right folks in Germany gave up on Trump. Now that one of their companies has announced a possible vaccine that could be approved before spring 2021... They're now reacting similar like to stock traders screaming in agony that sold at the bottom to then watch it do a dead cat bounce straight upwards (note: market was already doing well and so was Pfizer doing well prior to today's announcement). I love the irony in today's vaccine announcement... Biden campaign must be laughing hysterically all morning so far. wrbtrader
I'll wait too...I'm one of those people that will be using the Canaries in the Mine Field approach via watching to see what happens to my neighbours when they take it. If they don't drop dead, don't turn into Zombies or don't become psychotic and kill a bunch of people... I'll then take it but only after the Biden administration takes the vaccine. wrbtrader
In politics timing is everything. Trumps lack of humility has evidently pissed off the political gods. He had a good run, a smart guy would ride off and low profile it for awhile. I do not expect that to happen.
The 2020 flu shot imparts up to 40% reduction in COVID cases (read the white papers). I will absolutely be receiving the COVID vaccine when available.
Of course the text takes Cuomo's statement out of context. Trump's distribution plan calls for distributing the majority of vaccine doses to red states first while avoiding most of the population of blue states. Trump's plan also distributes the vaccine first to people who can pay for via private insurance --- avoiding most of the poor who do not have private insurance.
The Pfizer vaccine must be stored at -70 degrees C. Wow! That's going to make distribution difficult. It is also clear that that the Trump administration has taken no steps to support or fund a cold distribution model --- like buying movable cold temperature freezers that can be trucked as part of the logistics. They have only urged private industry to "do it". Why Pfizer’s ultra-cold COVID-19 vaccine will not be at the local pharmacy any time soon https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...he-local-pharmacy-any-time-soon-idUSKBN27P2VI Work to distribute the experimental COVID-19 vaccine developed by Pfizer Inc and BioNTech SE is gearing up after the companies announced successful interim data earlier on Monday, but it will not be coming to local pharmacies for the general public any time soon. The data, which sent U.S. stocks to record highs [.N], showed that the two companies’ experimental vaccine is 90% effective at preventing COVID-19. They are still awaiting data on safety, which could come later this month. Pfizer and BioNTech need to get regulators to sign off on the shot before it can start shipping vaccines to those considered most in need by government. Healthcare workers and people living in nursing homes will likely top that list. But the vaccine’s complex and super-cold storage requirements are an obstacle for even the most sophisticated hospitals in the United States and may impact when and where it is available in rural areas or poor countries where resources are tight. The main issue is that the vaccine, which is based on a novel technology that uses synthetic mRNA to activate the immune system against the virus, needs to be kept at minus 70 degrees Celsius (-94 F) or below. “The cold chain is going to be one of the most challenging aspects of delivery of this vaccination,” said Amesh Adalja, senior scholar at Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security. “This will be a challenge in all settings because hospitals even in big cities do not have storage facilities for a vaccine at that ultra-low temperature.” Indeed, one of the most prestigious U.S. hospitals, the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota, said it does not currently have that capability. “We’re talking about a vaccine that needs storage at minus 70 or 80. That’s a tremendous logistical issue not only in the U.S. but outside the Western world,” said Dr Gregory Poland, a virologist and vaccine researcher with the Mayo Clinic. “We’re a major medical center and we don’t have storage capacity like this. That will be true for everybody. This is a logistical obstacle.” Pfizer spokeswoman Kim Bencker said the company was working closely with the U.S. government and state officials on how to ship the vaccine from its distribution centers in the United States, Germany and Belgium around the globe. The detailed plan includes using dry ice to transport frozen vaccine vials by both air and land at their recommended temperatures for up to 10 days, she said. See graphic on COVID-19 global tracker: here ON ICE State and local healthcare providers are responsible for storing and administering vaccines once delivered. They can be kept in an ultra-low temperature freezer for up to six months, or for five days at 2-8 degrees C – a type of refrigeration commonly available at hospitals, Bencker said. The Pfizer storage units can also be refilled with ice for up to 15 days, she said. But shots will spoil in around five days at normal refrigeration temperatures of slightly above freezing. BioNTech CEO Ugur Sahin told Reuters the companies are analyzing if they can extend that for two weeks. The vaccine of Moderna Inc, which is working on a vaccine based on similar technology, does not need to be stored at such a low temperature. Other vaccines including ones from Johnson & Johnson and Novavax Inc can be stored at 2-8 degrees C, the temperature of a regular refrigerator. EXPANSION Northwell Health, a major hospital system in New York, is expanding its ultra-cold storage capacity. Although it is possible to deploy the vaccine before it spoils, Northwell Chief Pharmacy Officer Onisis Stefas said the hospital decided the freezer access would ensure a smooth rollout. The cold storage requirements could impede Pfizer’s ability to reach rural healthcare systems and nursing homes, or less wealthy nations, which may not have the funds for the refrigeration units, experts said. “If Pfizer’s is the only vaccine to be authorized in the next few months, we do worry about equity when it comes to spreading it to rural areas,” said Claire Hannan, executive director at the Association of Immunization Managers, a lobbying group for local public health officials who handle vaccines. Ultra-cold freezer supplies are already limited as hospitals scramble to stock up, Stefas said. Some states have said they have a shortage of ultra-cold freezers, according to public documents that states filed with the U.S. Centers for Disease Control. New Hampshire has purchased extra ultra-cold freezers and like other states is lobbying the Trump administration for additional funds, the documents show. California has also said ultra-cold freezer supplies are limited and roughly half of the states’ health departments are looking in to purchasing or leasing additional cold storage supplies. It has proposed building a distribution network of ultra-cold freezers, including mobile vaccination clinics, to reach underserved areas around the state. California said it will not provide vaccine supplies to facilities without adequate cold-storage capabilities. Without the extra equipment, doctors will have a dilemma: store vaccines in standard refrigerators and deploy all 975 doses in each Pfizer vaccine container in less than five days or restock them with dry ice and open them only twice a day to extend the vaccines’ life span, Hannan said. “I think it will be difficult, but based on the task and how important it is, people will do the best to their ability to make that happen,” Stefas said.
What happens when the vaccine reaches -60 C? Does it suddenly break down? Will we be getting the shot with a needle that is -70C? How do you inject a -70C liquid into a human body? What happens to the -70C anti-virus particles when it hits +98.6 F blood? A virus that floats around in +100F temperatures for hours, and lives on surfaces for days in any climate on this planet, yet for some REASON the vaccine, which is probably an inactivated version of it, cannot survive unless it is stored in Antarctica winter. I smell BS in this whole ultra-cold narrative. Feed your head.
Soooo you're saying this is another conspiracy? And your evidence is that it has to be kept cold? Have you ever cooked meat before? You store it in the refrigerator until you are ready to cook it. When you are ready to cook it, you take it out of the refrigerator. It won't go bad immediately after you take it out of the refrigerator. Similar concept with ice cream, frozen vegetables, ice cubes, organs to be transplanted, frozen human eggs, etc.