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Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Apr 24, 2020.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Yep.... they basically are rolling out a vaccine with no testing. The population of Russia are merely the test subjects.
     
    #111     Aug 11, 2020
  2. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    His least favourite daughter of the two, maybe three? I guess only the Putin equivalent of Trumpers will believe she received it.

    Well no matter what happens they will be claiming incredible success and practically no zombies. Fingers crossed it does work for them, it would be nice to keep the results fact based not hyper political but no chance.
     
    #112     Aug 11, 2020
  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Putin has two daughters from his first wife; Maria Vorontsova and Katerina Tikhonova. Maria, the eldest daughter, is a pediatric endocrinologist. Katerina is a competitive acrobatic dancer and instructor - but is well educated and also holds government positions.

    Russia announced that medical workers and educators would be getting the vaccination first. I am assuming that Maria - the doctor - got the vaccination.
     
    #113     Aug 11, 2020
  4. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Maria's pretty hot.
     
    #114     Aug 11, 2020
  5. I do think though that the ruskies are pursuing a valid line of inquiry with their vaccine, lack of safety and protocol being noted.

    Regular viewers will know that I am a believer- for now anyway- in the theory that there other viruses- known such as the common cold and unknown viruses- circulating that partially trigger many of the same antibodies and T-cell programming that covid does- although not an exact match - and this factor partially explains why many people have very mild or asymptomatic cases.

    From what I understand so far, the ruskie vaccine is not all that sophisticated. It allegedly works by manipulating a set of adenoviruses (the large family of viruses that cause the common cold and the range of common cold like symptoms) so that they are weakened and then injecting them as a vaccine. Most likely this will be helpful in triggering useful antibodies so that if a person become covid infected they will get a milder case. BINARY THINKERS LISTEN UP. I am not saying that it would create a neutralizing vaccine. That remains to be seen.

    This isnt exactly new science here so if it proves to be effective or helpful it is not rocket science. The Americans gave their own military adenovirus vaccines off and on over the years depending on availability. I guess some of the manufacturers got out of the business- not because the vaccines did not work- but because the milder viruses were not scary enough or disruptive enough to create much demand.

    Anyway, it is a valid line of inquiry as I said and I don't mind seeing the results. They do need to watch their arses though as every researching country does. The last thing we need is a vaccine that just partially fights the virus but the virus learns to adapt to it and you end out with a more resistant covid strain.
     
    #115     Aug 11, 2020
  6. ph1l

    ph1l

    Here is an exclusive view inside the Russia Corona Compound Production (RCCP) factory which is mass-producing the new vaccine.:)
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    #116     Aug 11, 2020
  7. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    I am of the opinion now that a vaccine may not be necessary for the Kung Flu.
     
    #117     Aug 11, 2020
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Coronavirus: Russia calls international concern over vaccine 'groundless'
    BBC - https://tinyurl.com/yykf9krk

    Russia has dismissed mounting international concern over the safety of its locally developed Covid-19 vaccine as "absolutely groundless".

    On Tuesday, it said a vaccine had been given regulatory approval after less than two months of testing on humans.

    But experts were quick to raise concerns about the speed of Russia's work, and a growing list of countries have expressed scepticism.

    Scientists in Germany, France, Spain and the US have all urged caution.

    "It seems our foreign colleagues are sensing the specific competitive advantages of the Russian drug and are trying to express opinions that... are absolutely groundless," Russia's Health Minister Mikhail Murashko told the Interfax news agency on Wednesday.

    He added that the vaccine would be available soon.

    "The first packages of the medical vaccine... will be received within the next two weeks, primarily for doctors," Mr Murashko said.

    Russian officials have said they plan to start mass vaccination in October.

    The announcement on Tuesday was made by President Vladimir Putin, who said the vaccine had passed all the required checks and his daughter had already been given it.

    But the World Health Organization (WHO) said it was in talks with Russian authorities about undertaking a review of the vaccine, which has been named Sputnik-V.

    It is not among the organisation's list of six vaccines that have reached phase three clinical trials, which involve more widespread testing in humans.

    What has the reaction been?
    The progress Russia says it has made on a coronavirus vaccine has been met with scepticism by health officials and media outlets in the US and Europe.

    On Wednesday, Germany's health minister expressed concern that it had not been properly tested.

    "It can be dangerous to start vaccinating millions... of people too early because it could pretty much kill the acceptance of vaccination if it goes wrong," Jens Spahn told local media.

    "Based on everything we know... this has not been sufficiently tested," he added. "It's not about being first somehow - it's about having a safe vaccine."

    Elsewhere in Europe, Isabelle Imbert, a researcher at the French National Centre for Scientific Research in Marseille, said promising a cure too early could be "very dangerous".

    "We do not know the methodology or the results of their clinical trials," she told Le Parisien.

    And in the US, the country's top virus expert, Dr Anthony Fauci, said he doubted Russia's claims.

    "I hope that the Russians have actually definitively proven that the vaccine is safe and effective," he told National Geographic. "I seriously doubt that they've done that."

    Meanwhile the Moscow-based Association of Clinical Trials Organizations (Acto), which represents the world's top drug companies in Russia, urged the health ministry to postpone approval until after phase-three trials.

    Acto executive director Svetlana Zavidova told the Russian MedPortal site that a decision on mass vaccination had been carried out after combined first- and second-phase tests on 76 people, and that it was impossible to confirm the efficacy of a drug on this basis.

    But some countries have reacted more positively to Moscow's announcement.

    In the Philippines, President Rodrigo Duterte offered to test the vaccine himself.

    "I believe the vaccine that you have produced is really good for humanity," he said. "I will be the first one to be experimented on."

    And Israel said it would enter negotiations to buy it if it is found to be a "serious product".

    What do we know about the vaccine?
    Russian scientists said early-stage trials of the vaccine had been completed and the results were a success.

    The Russian vaccine uses adapted strains of the adenovirus, a virus that usually causes the common cold, to trigger an immune response.

    But the vaccine's approval by Russian regulators comes before the completion of a larger study involving thousands of people, known as a phase-three trial.

    Experts consider these trials an essential part of the testing process.

    Despite this, Mr Murashko said on Tuesday the vaccine had "proven to be highly effective and safe", hailing it as a big step towards "humankind's victory" over Covid-19.

    Russia has likened the search for a vaccine to the space race contested by the Soviet Union and the US during the Cold War.

    Russia has previously been accused by the UK, US and Canada of seeking to steal research related to Covid-19.

    More than 100 vaccines around the world are in early development, with some of those being tested on people in clinical trials.

    Despite rapid progress, most experts think any vaccine would not become widely available until mid-2021.
     
    #118     Aug 12, 2020
  9. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Too lengthy to read.
     
    #119     Aug 12, 2020
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Experts concerned COVID-19 vaccine may not be as effective for obese people
    https://abc13.com/health/covid-19-vaccine-may-not-be-as-effective-for-obese-people/6369479/

    As clinical trials for a COVID-19 vaccine move forward, some experts are worried it may not be as effective for obese people, which includes more than a third of Americans according to the CDC.

    "We know from other vaccines that have been tested in obese populations that these individuals don't respond as well to these vaccines," said Dr. Matthew B. Laurens, a lead investigator at the University of Maryland for one of the country's most advanced coronavirus vaccine trials by Moderna Therapeutics in a report by ABC News.

    In 2017, researchers at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill found that vaccinated adults were twice as likely to be infected with the flu or flu-like illnesses compared to non-obese adults. The study suggested that while medical experts are still trying to fully understand the phenomenon, there are some theories behind the disparities.

    "The differences that are seen in the vaccine response in obese people were really noticed as early as 1985," said medical director of diagnostic biology at Houston Methodist Hospital Dr. Wesley Long.

    "There's a variety of theories. Everything from the fact that maybe the needles that we use to give vaccines are too short to effectively get into the muscle to deliver the vaccine in obese people to perhaps, because of a larger body mass, maybe a larger dose of vaccine needs to be used and, also, that perhaps it's a sort of chronic inflammatory state that's present in people who are obese and may interfere with the immune response to vaccines."

    Historically, many clinical trials for vaccines have excluded obese people due to chronic medical conditions that could alter trial results. However, Long said that's beginning to change.

    "We don't have any data, as far as I know, about COVID-19 vaccines, but this is one of the reasons why you have to do those large phase three clinical trials," said Dr. Peter Hotez, the dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine. "You can't rush them, because you want to be able to look at different populations, and there are different vaccines rolling out through Operation Warp Speed. So some vaccines may work better in some populations than others."

    Doctors say it is still critical for everyone to get vaccinated to minimize any risks for complications caused by infection.

    "It's really our best hope at controlling this pandemic and even if obese people have perhaps less of a protective response," Long said. "One thing we know with the flu vaccine is that it's very good, and with influenza, it's very good at preventing hospitalizations. So even if you are obese, you are much better off having had the flu shot and having some response than not having the flu shot because, again obese individuals are at higher risk for complications from influenza and from COVID-19. They tend to have other comorbidities that make them at higher risk of infections, so having some amount of protective response from vaccinations is going to be more beneficial than having no response at all."
     
    #120     Aug 14, 2020