Last Hope... Faithless Electors

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Scataphagos, Dec 14, 2020.

  1. UsualName

    UsualName

    Fun fact about faithless electors: Alexander Hamilton tried to coerce then Governor John Jay into changing New York’s electors to subvert Jefferson’s election in 1800. Hamilton argued Jefferson was an “atheist in religion, and a fanatic in politics.”

    Here’s an example of an “eye witness” at a MAGA riot:

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    #91     Dec 15, 2020
  2. UsualName

    UsualName

    Im sorry, but no. Minus the Brits, the Western Europeans aren’t the fighting type. Without America in NATO Europe will lose to the Russians year after year.

    Keeping democracy strong in Europe is critical to American security. We ain’t leaving. We built modern Europe and need it to prosper.
     
    #92     Dec 15, 2020
  3. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    No one wants to do their jobs because the President has isolated himself over the last four years. Uncompromising men, and all that.

    But still, the electoral votes need to go to the candidate the state voted for.
     
    #93     Dec 15, 2020
  4. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    interesting...
    Seems like you're OK when piss poor excuses/evidence disenfranchise minorities but not whitey?

     
    #94     Dec 15, 2020
  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    So all these items demonstrate voter fraud exists.... and gives some idea of the size & scope of the fraud including a table of all the voting fraud convictions in recent years in the U.S. People should be thankful that I posted this information - but I will note that you failed to include the comprehensive voting fraud conviction database post I provided recently. Here it is - https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/voting-fraud-conviction-database.353446/

    The question becomes is if there is a "massive" coordinated voter fraud in the 2020 election in the U.S. that rises to the level of overturning the election. Bottom line -- after all the investigating there is not.

    None of this rules out the need for better validation of voters for both in-person and mail-in voting. For in-person voting the obvious step (being used in many states) is to require a picture id to vote - while allowing people to obtain a state picture id for voting purposes at no cost. For mail-in voting the obvious step is to eliminate all ballot harvesting and implement strict legal penalties for the harvesting of ballots.

    There is also a need for states to clean up their voting roles -- if someone has not voted 4 years then a post card should be sent to them - if the postcard is rejected because the resident is no longer at that address -- then either the name should be removed after an attempt is made to review records to determine if the re-registered to vote at another address (inside or outside the district).
     
    #95     Dec 15, 2020
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  6. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    So why should inconsequential voter fraud not overturn an election but inconsequential voter fraud disenfranchise minority voters with restrictive policies (ie voter id)? I didn't have time to debunk most of the quoted claims, but let's be honest, half those are in the "3 million illegals voted for Trump" category (ie Texas claims).

    https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/study-supports-trump-5-7-million-noncitizens-may-have-cast-illegal-votes.310616/
     
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    #96     Dec 15, 2020
  7. Wallet

    Wallet

    I would add that the level of voting fraud for this election is much higher than what is being reported. But yes, after the mail-in shit show we just experienced, voting laws need to be tightened.

    Voter ID in no way disenfranchises minorities.
     
    #97     Dec 15, 2020
  8. UsualName

    UsualName

    Sir, this is an HVAC repair service...

    https://abc13.com/amp/mark-anthony-...ed-aggravated-assault-liberty-center/8802235/

    "He crossed the line from dirty politics to commission of a violent crime, and we are lucky no one was killed," Harris County District Attorney Kim Ogg said. "His alleged investigation was backward from the start - first alleging a crime had occurred and then trying to prove it happened."

    According to court documents, Aguirre told police that he was part of a group of private citizens called the "Liberty Center," who were conducting a civilian investigation into the alleged ballot scheme.

    According to Aguirre, he had been conducting surveillance for four days on a man who was allegedly the mastermind of a giant voter fraud scheme. Aguirre told authorities the man was hiding 750,000 fraudulent ballots in a truck he was driving.

    Instead, the victim turned out to be an innocent air conditioner repairman, court documents said.

    Aguirre ran his SUV into the back of the truck to get the technician to stop and get out, according to court documents.

    When the technician got out of the truck, Aguirre pointed a handgun at the technician, forced him to the ground and put his knee on the man's back until police came, the court document said.
     
    #98     Dec 15, 2020
  9. UsualName

    UsualName

    Excuse me, but why exactly is “better validation” needed when we just had the most secure election in our nation’s history?

    All this is doing is 1. Legitimizing baseless claims and 2. Hindering rightful voters trying to vote.

    Voting laws should be positive not negative. We should have more laws for provisional and mail in ballots. There should nationwide same day voter registration. Every American should automatically be registered to vote.
     
    #99     Dec 15, 2020
  10. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    GWB is exMAGA trying to clean his image and hoping to have it both ways w/o getting called out.
     
    #100     Dec 15, 2020