Largest Military Recall Since 1941?

I have done some research of my own through contacts I have from my prior military days....what I am finding out is three separate activities at this time;

1) Several additional military units being moved into the US over and above those mentioned in the press last month.

2) There is a new mobilization ramp up now in affect, but to what extent I have not yet been able to fully verify.

3) There will also be additional forces built up readied for afghanistan ASAP (up to 20,000).

 

AMT do you know how many people are in the military? 20,000 going to afghanistan would be considered light.

If Obama really does put more soldiers in afghanistan he will go light and that will keep improvements at a slow pace and McCain will most likely urge a surge and it will most likely happen.

As for anything big happening i once again will say your blowing things out of proportion.

 

**Shaking head***

......at the total lack of proper understanding most people have for our current military deployments and force levels.

 

Force levels? Are you talking about the amount of enlisted soldiers we have?

There is currently 190,000 military members in Iraq right now. The the war has greatly improved and taking 20,000 out of that 190,000 would not lead to dramatic results.

On top of that there is currently 380,000 men enlisted in the army and 150,000 enlisted in the marine corps.

I still can't understand why you think a deployment of 20,000 to afghanistan is all that dramatic. Afterall Obama said his focus would be on afghanistan.

Maybe you should get back to your conspiracy theories.

 

Well I will be darned (too funny...just as I have been hearing)..........

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U.S. eyes “surge” of over 20,000 for Afghanistan

David Morgan
Reuters
November 23, 2008

The Pentagon is considering a plan to send more than 20,000 troops to Afghanistan over the next 12 to 18 months to help safeguard elections and quell rising Taliban violence, officials said on Friday.

U.S. Defence Secretary Robert Gates said he and top commanders had discussed sending five brigades to Afghanistan, including four brigades of combat ground forces as well as an aviation brigade, which a defence official said would consist mainly of support troops. An Army combat brigade has about 3,500 soldiers.

Gates said much of the infusion could take place before Afghanistan holds elections by next autumn.

“I think it’s important that we have a surge of forces before the election,” said Gates, who stressed no decision on troop deployments had been taken.

“We’ve had some very preliminary discussions,” he told reporters after meeting to discuss southern Afghanistan with his counterparts from NATO countries with troops deployed in the region.

Pentagon press secretary Geoff Morrell said more support troops, also known as “enablers,” could also head to Afghanistan as Gates considers a request by U.S. Army Gen. David McKiernan, the top commander of NATO and U.S. forces in the country.

Read article.......... http://www.infowars.com/?p=6148

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Thinning US forces getting strentched out all over the world and now LOOKING for ways to beef up forces AT HOME......I guess they DO NEED a force recall after all to be able to watch the citizens at home with possible new deployments scheduled.

 

Governments and their damned GENERATED crisis, no wonder there may be a force recall in place...getting us all ready for more ACTION ahead..........

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Vice President Joe Biden promises WeAreChange an upcoming crisis

We Are Change
Youtube
Saturday 22nd November, 2008

Several days before election day I caught up with Joe Biden and asked him what he meant when he said mark his words Obama’s presidency will bring a “generated crisis”. He told me it would happen regardless of who’s president, he stated he was only repeating what the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff was saying and there would in fact be an international crisis without a doubt he didn’t even think twice when I asked him.

I also tried to ask him about what Obama meant by stating we have “negative liberties” and the Constitution is “flawed”, he then ignored me. He claims they will have to make some tough decisions due to an international crisis. I wonder if those “tough decisions” will be similar to the “tough decisions” Bush made after 9/11 like passing the Patriot Act, spying on Americans without warrants and engaging in an endless war.

Even Obama stated in his Chicago speech on election night shortly after his victory that he will have “challenges” which will force him to make unfavorable decisions.

It’s time Americans wake up and realize that Trilateral co-founder and associate of Henry Kissinger and David Rockefeller: Zbigniew Brzezinski is pulling the strings of this administration and according to numerous publications he’s written the past few decades, we are in for some tough times…

VIDEO here of Biden.......... http://www.prisonplanet.com/vice-president-joe-biden-promises-wearechange-an-upcoming-crisis.html

 

Quit acting like we have some massive shortage of troops.

I take it your part of the conspiracy theorists that believe the world in a few decades will become over populated. Of course your beliefs would not have anything to do with studying anything relevant such as economic geography and such.

You literally cling to whatever paranoia you can find because somehow you get off on it. Find a new forum.

If i got my pants all worked up basically everyday about some national crisis that isn't even yet believed by the global warming freaks than i would not be spouting this shit online. I would go straight to a shrink and get heavily medicated.

 

You are SOOOOO LOST......THEY LOVE your type!!!

Eyes closed, mind off, and mouth open....THEY love you!!!! :eek:

 

Your speaking of the Obama supporter.

I am just as skeptical of Obama as I am about guys on here like you that only ever talk about conspiracy theories.

It's called pattern recognition idioto.

 

America’s Child Soldiers: US Military Recruiting Children to Serve in the Armed Forces

Sherwood Ross
Global Research
November 29, 2008

In violation of its pledge to the United Nations not to recruit children into the military, the Pentagon “regularly target(s) children under 17,” the American Civil Liberties Union(ACLU) says.

The Pentagon “heavily recruits on high school campuses, targeting students for recruitment as early as possible and generally without limits on the age of students they contact,” the ACLU states in a 46-page report titled “Soldiers of Misfortune.”

This is in violation of the U.S. Senate’s 2002 ratification of the Optional Protocol to the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child.

Pentagon recruiters are enrolling children as young as 14 in the Junior Reserve Officer Training Corps(JROTC) in 3,000 middle-, junior-, and high schools nationwide, causing about 45 percent of the quarter of million students so enrolled to enlist, a rate much higher than in the general student population. Clearly, this is the outcome of underage exposure.

In some cities, such as Los Angeles, high school administrators have been enrolling reluctant students involuntarily in JROTC as an alternative to overcrowded gym classes! In Lincoln high school, enrollees were not told JROTC was involuntary. In Buffalo, N.Y., the entire incoming freshman class at Hutchinson Central Technical High School, (average age 14), was involuntarily enrolled in JROTC. In Chicago, graduating eighth graders (average age 13) are allowed to join any of 45 JROTC programs.

“Wartime enlistment quotas (for Iraq and Afghanistan) have placed increased pressure on military recruiters to fill the ranks of the armed services,” an ACLU report says. Trying to fill its quotas without reinstituting a draft “has contributed to a rise in…allegations of misconduct and abuse by recruiters” that “often goes unchecked.”

The Pentagon also spends about $6 million a year to flog an online video game called “America’s Army” to attract children as young as 13, “train them to use weapons, and engage in virtual combat and other military missions…learn how to fire realistic Army weapons such as automatic rifles and grenade launchers and learn how to jump from airplanes,” the ACLU reports. As of Sept., 2006, 7.5 million users were registered on the game’s website, which is linked to the Army’s main recruiting website.

And when Pentagon recruiters sign 17-year-olds into the inactive reserves under the Future Soldiers Training Program, (the idea being to let them earn their high school diploma), they frequently don’t tell the children they can withdraw with no penalty.

“Over the years, we have had reports from students who were told that if they change their minds, they would be considered deserters in war time and could be hunted down and shot,” the New York City-based Youth Activists-Youth Allies said. One young woman was told if she backed out of her enlistment her family would be deported. And Bill Galvin, of the Center on Conscience and War, said one young man who changed his mind about enlisting and was told by his recruiter: “If you don’t report, that’s treason and you will be shot.”

Singled out by the Pentagon for intense recruitment drives are urban centers such as Los Angeles and New York. The latter, in which low-income students account for 51% of all high school enrollment and where 71% are black or Latino, contains three of the nation’s top 32 counties for Army enlistment. In Los Angeles, 91% of the students are non-white and 75% are low-income.

And the Coalition Against Militarism in Our Schools says the 30 JROTC programs in Los Angeles Unified School District (with 4,754 students) are “Located in the most economically depressed communities of the city.”

African-Americans make up 16% of the civilian population of military age but 22% of the Army’s enlisted personnel, the ACLU notes. It charges bluntly: “The U.S. military’s practice of targeting low-income youth and students of color in combination with exaggerated promises of financial rewards for enlistment, undermines the voluntariness of their enlistment…”

JROTC also runs a Middle School Cadet Corp for children as young as 11, that militarizes them even before they graduate elementary school. “Florida, Texas, and Chicago, offer military-run after-school programs to sixth-, seventh-, and eighth-graders…(that) involve drills with wooden rifles and military chants….and military history.” Children wear uniforms to school once a week for inspection.

While the U.S. claims “no one under age 17 is eligible for recruitment,” the Pentagon’s Joint Advertising Market Research & Studies database(JAMRS) scoops up data on eleventh graders, typically just 16. JAMRS has data on 30 million Americans between age 16 and 25 for recruitment purposes.

The ACLU says this data includes “e-mail addresses, grade point averages, college intentions, height and weight information, schools attended, courses of study, military interests, and racial and ethnic data” as well as Social Security numbers.

In the face of grim casualty reports from the Middle East, Pentagon recruiters appear increasingly desperate to make their quotas. About one in five, the New York Times reported in 2004, was found to have engaged in “recruiting improprieties” ranging from “threats and coercion to making false promises to young people that they would not be sent to Iraq.”

Given the Bush regime’s plunge into criminal wars of aggression that defy international law and the Geneva conventions, there is no reason why military recruitment of any kind should be allowed on any college campus, much less in the secondary schools. If the United States truly wished to spread democracy, (rather than seize oil fields), it would be assigning vast numbers of Peace Corps recruiters to college campuses, and the budgets of the Peace Corps and the Defense Department would be reversed.

As Eugene Debs, the presidential candidate on the Socialist ticket that went to prison for speaking against World War One, (he polled 913,000 votes in 1920) once said: “I would no more teach children military training than I would teach them arson, robbery or assassination.”

The fact that the Pentagon is having such a daunting time these days filling its ranks as it wages an illegal war speaks very well for the intelligence of the American people. That’s no excuse, though, for the Defense Department to illegally recruit impressionable children.