large study finds that (hydroxy)chloroquine killing more than it "cures"

Discussion in 'Politics' started by destriero, May 22, 2020.

  1. Dr. Love

    Dr. Love

    More than 50K lives could have been saved if not for the TDS leftist evil controlled media and it's supporters. Let that sink in.

     
    #161     Jul 22, 2020
  2. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    Meanwhile on the real world, how have things been going with the drug that actually was found to be helpful?

    www.bbc.com/news/amp/health-53061281

    A cheap and widely available drug can help save the lives of patients seriously ill with coronavirus.

    The low-dose steroid treatment dexamethasone is a major breakthrough in the fight against the deadly virus, UK experts say.

    The drug is part of the world's biggest trial testing existing treatments to see if they also work for coronavirus.

    It cut the risk of death by a third for patients on ventilators. For those on oxygen, it cut deaths by a fifth.

    Had the drug had been used to treat patients in the UK from the start of the pandemic, up to 5,000 lives could have been saved, researchers say.

    Also other steroids working.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ed-reduced-risk-coronavirus-death/5478793002/
     
    #162     Jul 22, 2020
  3. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    Well that fucks the HCL conspiracy in the ass, remember the drug that was too cheap for big pharma to allow good study results?

    Just as cheap and off patent basic steroids getting good press?

    Trumpets lose again.
     
    #163     Jul 22, 2020
  4. Snarkhund

    Snarkhund

    So its political for you. It about winning and losing and has virtually nothing to do with public health.

    When did you become a misanthrope?
     
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  5. Dr. Love

    Dr. Love

     
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  6. LacesOut

    LacesOut

    #166     Jul 22, 2020
  7. LacesOut

    LacesOut

    I don’t take it because I don’t need it. I’m not sick or vulnerable. I’ve been at the lake for months and getting tons o sun and exercise and fresh fruit, veg, fish...offices closed so why be anywhere else?
    But thanks for telling me it’s $60 a pill when it’s actually $0.37. You were only off by a factor of 200.
     
    #167     Jul 22, 2020
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  8. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    #168     Jul 22, 2020
  9. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    Political for me? No except I see the cult scam part.

    I'm not really American remember? Technically, but my world view is vastly greater. I also have over 25 years of hospice involvement. I watch HCL like a hawk along with half dozen other drugs/therapies.

    The reality as best I see it is steroids and antibiotics work and HCL has some nice anti-inflammatory properties but.. The QT problem means this is mostly an issue to avoid. I do take it myself for my knee.

    It is bad for seriously ill weak/old people on average.

    Its real purpose is to act as a placebo prophylactic for trumpets who would never have become seriously ill anyway. I know the faith healer and witch doctor racket far to well not to see the real deal.

    I will change my mind immediately when evidence presents however if one of mine was ill right now would use other treatments.
     
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    #169     Jul 22, 2020
  10. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    So you don't get that Trump has been pushing it as a prophylactic. Right... Dunbass. You take it when you are not sick to stop you getting sick.

    You can't read. I said 60 bucks for a pack of 20 (200mg) manufactured/branded by Sanofi. Not generic bulk. When I bought these Colombia months back I compared the price to the US.

    Sanofi (name brand) is what was available, generics are cheaper but near all lupus people take Sanofi. Generics of normal chloroquinine are just 3 cents a pill retail. I have experience enough with generic drugs to know to be wary of quality and authenticity.

    Since then genius the market has been flooded with pills.

    Anyway say hi to your dad for me. Tell him know he tried.
     
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    #170     Jul 22, 2020