Kudos to MMs

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by nitro, Oct 23, 2008.

  1. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    FV seems to be about the worst indicator anyone's ever come up with and persisted with other an extended period of time. Could it be your own personal bias is so ingrained in the indicator that its an excellent fade for traders ? Because your own instincts for markets seem to be way off, so an indicator that systematically reflects that bias might be useful.

    Perhaps run a model on 2011 that invests long the SPX for any time period the FV is lower then the SPX, and short any time the FV exceeds the SPX. Now, mathematically speaking, the question is could these excellent results ( I'm guessing here on the model result ) be due to random luck, or are we on to something, that being the fade potential of your trading bias ?

    The answer to that question could lead to future trading profits.
    I could make my own indictor here, RNFV. RNFV is the implied future value of the SPX based on reversing Nitro's indicator.

    Simply put, RNFV = SPX - ( FV - SPX ) = ( 2 * SPX ) - FV
    RNOFV = (2 * SPX ) - OFV

    I suspect that RNOFV has potential. And, once I introduce RNPOFVF it might correlate with SPX closer then the other RN series indicators. FV/RNFV seem a little extreme at times.

    So here goes. Today's RNOFV is 1340.08. suggesting a moderate bullish stance on markets.
     
    #4171     Jan 2, 2012
  2. figured this guy out long ago. either the most useful idiot in history, or a total scammer.
     
    #4172     Jan 2, 2012
  3. Sometimes you can be quite funny.
     
    #4173     Jan 2, 2012
  4. George "W" Bush wants to aks you a question... "how do you put food on your family?" Seriously.. are you on food stamps? Welfare? Everyone has bills, even the bums on lower wacker. Nobody could be wrong this many times in a row and still be solvent.
     
    #4174     Jan 2, 2012
  5. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    Posted some time ago :

    So, given that 20% annually is easy, why do you need indicators that seem to be perpetually wrong ? Those guys at JPM must be geniuses if they can return 20% annually on low risk stuff.
     
    #4175     Jan 2, 2012
  6. Not sure where the 20% figure came from. OCGCX historical performance is:
    1-Year: 1%
    3-Year: 9%
    5-Year: 3%
    10-Year: 3%

    You'd be better off with an index fund.
     
    #4176     Jan 2, 2012
  7. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    Is it still the position? Just so you know, the new year has just gapped 20 points against it.

    Since you like worthless inputs to toy with, most analysts are bullish for this year, maybe you could incorporate that into the equation. They did get it right for the first part of the last year though.

    Otherwise we are addicted as always to this trainwreck, so happy new year, and keep up the bad work!!!
     
    #4177     Jan 3, 2012
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    #4178     Jan 3, 2012
  9. nitro

    nitro

    SPX, 1279.44. FV, 1073.91. OFV, 1233.26. POFVF, 1199.91.

    Added Short 1 more unit 1279.44 SPX.

    <table border="1">
    <tr>
    <th>Date</th>
    <th>Action</th>
    <th>Price</th>
    <th>Units</th>
    <th>PnL</th>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td>Dec 20, 2011</td>
    <td>Sell to Open SPX</td>
    <td>1229.89</td>
    <td>2</td>
    <td>Open</td>
    </tr>
    <td>Jan 03, 2012</td>
    <td>Sell to Open SPX</td>
    <td>1279.49</td>
    <td>1</td>
    <td>Open</td>

    </tr>
    </table>
     
    #4179     Jan 3, 2012
  10. My resolution to retire young by fading these calls is off to a pristine start.

    Who else will be joining me ?
     
    #4180     Jan 3, 2012