Kudos to MMs

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by nitro, Oct 23, 2008.

  1. nitro

    nitro

    I understand, but I think he is too forward and should learn to keep some things to himself. If he is correct, the rewards will be bittersweet, if not enough. He could have said everything he said, had the same impact and maybe even have helped, without the "I dream of a recession because then I make money." There are tens if not hundreds of millions of people that would be desperate if that happened. No wonder people can't stand traders.

    While I believe the same thing (that all this attempt at a cure doesn't end well at least not in the next two years), I don't revel in it. In fact, it pains me that I may be correct. I wish I could be long, but my positions are ruled by my model, not what I think. It doesn't mean I like it.

    If we all make a fortune from a terrible downslide, we should give a great deal of it back by doing something positive with the money.
     
    #3711     Sep 27, 2011
  2. nitro

    nitro

    #3712     Sep 27, 2011
  3. nitro

    nitro

    Calibrated FV, 883.91. FV, 1096.85. Mid, 990.38.
     
    #3713     Sep 27, 2011
  4. whats the end game here

    or is there no end game, just endless
     
    #3714     Sep 27, 2011
  5. the range is not a problem. SPX had a similar range recently. the problem is that FV is mostly out of sync with SPX.

    do any of the older versions work in the current environment? during 2010 crash that particular version caught most of the turns very nicely.
     
    #3715     Sep 27, 2011
  6. hookers.
     
    #3716     Sep 27, 2011
  7. nitro

    nitro

    Calibrated FV, 901.32. FV, 1083.76. Mid, 992.54.
     
    #3717     Sep 28, 2011
  8. nitro

    nitro

    There is no range problem in FV. Calibrated FV may have a range problem [only if you don't listen to what it measures], since that is saying the market is overvalued by about 200 handles, or about $2T. FV on the other hand, currently says that that market is overvalued by 100 handles, or $1T. That sounds like alot, but consider that AAPL by itself has destroyed about $1T in other companies value. At 40 VIX, it is three bad days. Calibrated FV is a measure of odds of recession and where we would be if we were in a recession NOW, and it thinks they are extremely high. FV on the other hand thinks the odds of a recession are mild.

    You are stuck on older versions of FV. It could be that we get miraculous month or two where it shocks and awes us again if we went to older versions. But I am going after different fish, and perhaps accidentally, it fits my own psychology better. Look, the closer you get to smaller time frames, the more you are affected by chaotic instabilities. By broadening your horizon and focusing more on macro, you are able to get averaging results, and the mathematics of statistics and probability regain their power. It is going from a matrix, to the eigenvalues and eigenvectors of that matrix. Higher moments exist again instead of going to infinity.

    Neither is correct, it is a matter of where you feel you have a better understanding, and more importantly, where your tools have the greatest chance of succeeding.

    I think people like to go towards the high frequency because it is sexy, because it allows them to see their progress incrementally, and it feels more like a paycheck. It allows them to say, "see how smart I am" often. Feels good. But the closer you get to that scale, the more intense the technological commitments get. Analyze the reason the markets have not followed FV and you will see that it has taken trillions of dollars of external exogenous intervention from central banks and governments to force SPX and FV to diverge "far". Of course FV is going to lag some of that. Over the months, and now going on years, I have made FV get smarter so that it re-calibrates itself to those events as fast as possible. But it is not foolproof, and one of the consequences of that is that the smaller time frame loses predictability. It is a compromise. It is a consequence of the Fourier Transform, and it is inescapable: The more you localize in time, the more you lose on position/momentum space, and vice versa.

    I am done explaining that. I don't know how else to say it.
     
    #3718     Sep 28, 2011
  9. nitro

    nitro

    Watch this 40 ish level in copper. If it breaks, it is high odds SPX converges down to FV pronto (expand to five year view):

    http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/jjc

    Some are saying the level is already technically broken. I say not quite. You can verify by looking at Tin etc. For you guys the like momentum trades, there is one served on a platter.
     
    #3719     Sep 28, 2011
  10. nitro

    nitro

    Copper down 1% as I write this, with SIFs trading higher by focusing on the wrong news, the passing of the EFSF by Germany.

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/44702418

    High odds of a market selloff sometime today if commodities and particularly copper closes here or below. Sometimes there is a lag (markets have to work through all sorts of readjustments), but this week for sure assuming the copper breakdown holds.

    http://www.forexpros.com/commodities/copper-streaming-chart
     
    #3720     Sep 29, 2011