Kudos to MMs

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by nitro, Oct 23, 2008.


  1. Ambitious yes, but a 50 VIX level has this move already priced in. Just looking for a retracement of the October downmove. With the 200 day sitting at 1200 right now, I'd say it is a pretty decent target. Using backspreads in the options market, letting the skew and vol give me the edge in setting up this trade.
     
    #231     Dec 18, 2008
  2. nitro

    nitro

    Sorry, I disagree with your thesis.
     
    #232     Dec 19, 2008
  3. nitro

    nitro

    "FV" has come down hard. Approximately 910.
     
    #233     Dec 19, 2008
  4. nitro

    nitro

    Does anyone think that oil is nearing some sort of tradeable bottom? Jeez, I never believed oil at nearly $150, but there it was. So with that caveat...I can't believe oil is going too far below $25. Therefore, buying oil has approximately $8 of downside, and imo $60 of upside. The R/R seems like there is a play, and now you have to find the right position and asset class to make a bet.
     
    #234     Dec 19, 2008
  5. It seems the front month is being liquidated. If you look a the deferreds, they are at a more "reasonable" level. The 1991 high of 41, which was also the 2004 breakout should be some kind of support. USO seems a good vehicle to me. It has adjusted well on the way down.
     
    #235     Dec 19, 2008
  6. nitro

    nitro

    One thing to note. Now that IRs are zero, the [stock index] futures will be trading at a discount to the spot. That means that traders that use futures as a leading indicator are probably chasing their own tail. Add to that expiration day, and the leading indicator value of ES over cash is even less caustic, today.

    Just a few minutes ago, cash rallied and futures lagged.
     
    #236     Dec 19, 2008
  7. nitro

    nitro

    "FV" has collapsed to about 900 again. Unless something changes between now and the close, at the time of this writing, imo to make 13 handles is not worth the risk.
     
    #237     Dec 19, 2008
  8. check out SU, looks like it has bottomed. long stock short puts.
     
    #238     Dec 19, 2008
  9. nitro

    nitro

    Thx. I like the stock.
     
    #239     Dec 22, 2008
  10. nitro

    nitro

    SIFs slowly beginning to get edge to them again. Imo, 900 is still "FV", and yet we have sold off enough where a long has a reasonable R/R.
     
    #240     Dec 22, 2008