Kudos to MMs

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by nitro, Oct 23, 2008.

  1. nitro

    nitro

    NFV considers the bond market.
     
    #2031     Oct 11, 2010
  2. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    So I am being dishonest when pointing out the fallacy of your thinking? Again, what is the P/L of the system for the last 6 month? If we want to be honest I mean....

    For fun Long 1163....
     
    #2032     Oct 11, 2010
  3. ammo

    ammo

    unless you are able to buy on the bid, you wouldnt have gotten a 63 fill in the last 15 minutes
     
    #2033     Oct 11, 2010
  4. nitro

    nitro

    NFV 1108.30. ANFV 1164.80. SPX 1167.63.

    Close enough to 60 edge. Add short unit here @1167.63.
     
    #2034     Oct 11, 2010
  5. nitro

    nitro

    NFV 1109.00. ANFV 1164.71. SPX 1164.97.

    If you entered on 60 edge, you might take profit on convergence to ANFV. I have been noticed that this is what people are doing now with this - taking edge only when SPX is divergent from NFV based on some chain (as we have been doing for months), but also when SPX is divergent from ANFV, but taking profits _not_ on a crossing below a convergence to a lower chain point, but instead convergence to ANFV.

    Of course, easier is just to take divergence from ANFV, say +/- 5 and exit EOD no matter what, or on profit target, whichever comes first. But this requires me to post ANFV in realtime.

    In order for me to take profit on the 60 units, I need SPX - NFV <= 50. So we need SPX approximately 1159 at current NFV reading.
     
    #2035     Oct 11, 2010
  6. GTS

    GTS

    Code:
    [B]Date         Action    Quant Price   Position  Basis    Realized G/L
    09/02/10     Short     -1    1089.00    -1    1089.00    
    09/03/10     Short     -1    1104.00    -2    1096.50    
    09/09/10     Short     -1    1107.00    -3    1100.00    
    09/13/10     Short     -1    1121.75    -4    1105.44    
    09/15/10     Cover     +2    1116.75    -2    1105.44     (22.63)
    09/16/10     Cover     +1    1118.00    -1    1105.44     (12.56)
    09/17/10     Short     -1    1133.00    -2    1119.22    
    09/20/10     Short     -1    1142.50    -3    1126.98    
    09/23/10     Cover     +1    1124.00    -2    1126.98     2.98 
    09/24/10     Short     -1    1140.68    -3    1131.55    
    09/24/10     Short     -1    1146.62    -4    1135.31    
    09/28/10     Cover     +1    1133.19    -3    1135.31     2.12 
    09/28/10     Short     -1    1145.05    -4    1137.75    
    10/04/10     Cover     +1    1138.43    -3    1137.75     (0.68)
    10/05/10     Short     -1    1152.90    -4    1141.54    
    10/08/10     Short     -1    1160.59    -5    1145.35
    11/11/10     Short     -1    1167.63    -6    1149.06    
                                                    Total     (30.77)
                            
    SPX    1167.63    Unrealized Gain/Loss         (119.53)        
    
    [/B]
     
    #2036     Oct 11, 2010
  7. GTS

    GTS

    I thought the next buy point was 65 not 60:

     
    #2037     Oct 11, 2010
  8. nitro

    nitro

    60->70. It was as you said, but I realized that was chicken. Also, I can not resist shorting against 1172 SPX on almost any reason. After edge is 50, what difference does it make? This thing is either in lalah land, or it isn't.

    The chain is my preference. You have to use your own chain based on account size, courage, how adaptable you are, and what else is going on in the market. The chain is __NOT__ the system. NFV and ANFV are.

    You also have to decide what instrument to use, ES spreads, ES, SPX options, SPY, SPY options. Maybe use only one chain point, etc etc etc....
     
    #2038     Oct 11, 2010
  9. nitro

    nitro

    Convergence to ANFV happening in realtime (NFV is the first number, ANFV the second. Ignore the other two - tests):

    [​IMG]
     
    #2039     Oct 11, 2010
  10. nitro

    nitro

    10/11/10
     
    #2040     Oct 11, 2010