Kudos to MMs

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by nitro, Oct 23, 2008.

  1. nitro

    nitro

    For those that are following ANFV out of corner of the eye, yesterday it led us higher incorrectly _as_a_day_trade_ (although the trade was profitable in the morning), but then turned around and led us lower today correctly.

    As expected, it is far more agile than NFV, but it remains to be seen what happens to the downside...
     
    #2001     Oct 7, 2010
  2. sounds like blasphemy
     
    #2002     Oct 7, 2010
  3. nitro

    nitro

    NFV 1111.27. ANFV 1152.55. SPX 1157.90.

    We may get 50-edge!!! Patience...
     
    #2003     Oct 7, 2010
  4. nitro

    nitro

    NFV 1112.41. ANFV 1153.81. SPX 1157.83.

    Nothing to do. Got to rise early tomorrow, since employment report always moves markets.
     
    #2004     Oct 7, 2010
  5. You were "hoping" the SPX would rise significantly and move closer to 1072 when you <b>already had 3 units short</b>? So you <i>want</i> the market to move significantly <b>against</b> your existing position just so you get to add another unit?

    This entire line of thinking makes absolutely no sense to me. Would you care to try explaining/justifying this?
     
    #2005     Oct 8, 2010
  6. nitro

    nitro

    NFV 1108.73. ANFV 1152.3. SPX 1160.59.

    Edge 52. Add short unit here @1160.59.
     
    #2006     Oct 8, 2010
  7. nitro

    nitro

    I will try my best to explain.

    When you trade a model, you have a feel for it. In particular, you get a feel for how it responds to the inputs. The feel that I had was that NFV was going to add another unit somewhere in here. Lets enumerate the scenarios: If the market is going to go lower and correct, would you rather add a short unit at 5, or at 7? If the market is going ballistic, would you rather add a short unit at 5, or at 7?

    Therefore, by pure logic, you always want to add to a position as "cheaply" as possible, higher if shorting, lower if buying, regardless of what current position you have on. The current positions are in the hands of the market. The only one that is in your hands are the ones whose decisions you still have to negotiate.
     
    #2007     Oct 8, 2010
  8. GTS

    GTS

    Code:
    [B]Date         Action    Quant Price   Position  Basis    Realized G/L[/B]
    09/02/10     Short     -1    1089.00    -1    1089.00    
    09/03/10     Short     -1    1104.00    -2    1096.50    
    09/09/10     Short     -1    1107.00    -3    1100.00    
    09/13/10     Short     -1    1121.75    -4    1105.44    
    09/15/10     Cover     +2    1116.75    -2    1105.44     (22.63)
    09/16/10     Cover     +1    1118.00    -1    1105.44     (12.56)
    09/17/10     Short     -1    1133.00    -2    1119.22    
    09/20/10     Short     -1    1142.50    -3    1126.98    
    09/23/10     Cover     +1    1124.00    -2    1126.98     2.98 
    09/24/10     Short     -1    1140.68    -3    1131.55    
    09/24/10     Short     -1    1146.62    -4    1135.31    
    09/28/10     Cover     +1    1133.19    -3    1135.31     2.12 
    09/28/10     Short     -1    1145.05    -4    1137.75    
    10/04/10     Cover     +1    1138.43    -3    1137.75     (0.68)
    10/05/10     Short     -1    1152.90    -4    1141.54    
    10/08/10     Short     -1    1160.59    -5    1145.35    
                                                   [B] Total     (30.77)
                            
    SPX    1160.59    Unrealized Gain/Loss         (91.37)   [/B]     
     
    #2008     Oct 8, 2010
  9. nitro

    nitro

    NFV 1110.06. ANFV 1153.39. SPX 1162.73.

    Nothing to do, just an update.
     
    #2009     Oct 8, 2010
  10. nltro

    nltro

    SPX 1165.12. nitro, what exactly is the secret of your success(failure)? Balls of titanium or Brains of feces?
     
    #2010     Oct 8, 2010