Kudos to MMs

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by nitro, Oct 23, 2008.

  1. nltro

    nltro

    That said, I don't like the action today and I'm pulling the eject handles at 1145, exiting all long deltas.
     
    #1941     Sep 27, 2010
  2. nitro

    nitro

    NFV 1112.34, ANFV 1148.07.
     
    #1942     Sep 27, 2010
  3. nitro

    nitro

    NFV 1110.74. ANFV 1145.82.

    Just to update. No action need be taken.
     
    #1943     Sep 27, 2010
  4. ammo

    ammo

    hang in there nitro, don't let anyone get in your head
     
    #1944     Sep 27, 2010
  5. nitro

    nitro

    Ok.
     
    #1945     Sep 27, 2010
  6. Nitro, I haven't been following NFV all that closely, but I get the impression that your system generally tends to perform well in every type of market but one; The low-volatility, steep uptrend (as seen in March or September 2010).

    Perhaps this problem could be hedged/solved by always purchasing and holding cheap, far-OTM SPX calls?
     
    #1946     Sep 27, 2010
  7. nitro

    nitro

    Rearden Metal,

    That's the same market type that ripped us (me) a new a-hole, remember? The friggin market did nothing but go up relentlessly every day for what seemed an eternity.

    Perhaps. The problem with that is that you need monster moves for those things to be worth anything. Even if the market moves higher, you have to keep up with declining IV on the calls. And if you bought too expensive a skew, it is even worse. As you are well aware, you could be right on direction in options and still lose money. Generally, SPX options are over priced, so you are already starting from negative edge when buying them.

    That said, there is a filter that Runningbear told me about that could potentially signal when it is best to do this kind of DOM SPX calls play that you are suggesting, but I have not thought it through yet.
     
    #1947     Sep 27, 2010
  8. How would NFV perform if you were to use it as a long-only system? (Ignoring the signals and staying flat when NFV is below SPX, but still going long when NFV is higher than SPX). Would that work?
     
    #1948     Sep 27, 2010
  9. nitro

    nitro

    Very interesting question!! I don't know! Too little data to tell, imo, unless we tested it with historical data.
     
    #1949     Sep 27, 2010
  10. nitro

    nitro

    NFV 1108.93. ANFV 1146.35. SPX 1133.19.

    That is 24 edge so we take profits on the 35 units from 1146. +13. We have the 24 units from 1142 and the 14 units from 1089 left. We need GTS to post one of those nice table updates.

    As a side note, ANFV is not moving lower.
     
    #1950     Sep 28, 2010