Kudos to MMs

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by nitro, Oct 23, 2008.

  1. nitro

    nitro

    Sure! I am all for science. I welcome a proof. In fact, I demand it.

    Go NFV!!!!!!!!!! I am rooting for ya.
     
    #1811     Sep 8, 2010
  2. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    OK, so although I expect a downturn soon and your NFV has a 30 or so pts edge here, I will go LONG at 1102.5 and will manage the position and average down 5-6 times if it goes against me, probably by every 8-10 pts...

    The test of the pudding....

    Edit: In my previous post a not was missing from this sentence:

    "how I do it using random entries..." correctly: not random entries but managed position
     
    #1812     Sep 8, 2010
  3. piezoe

    piezoe

    Nitro and Pekelo, two of the brightest traders posting on ET. This thread now has the makings of the stuff of legend and history. I can't wait!
     
    #1813     Sep 8, 2010
  4. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    I am getting old... :(

    Edit of the edit: The original sentence was the correct. :)

    So the entry can be random, if the position is managed well, one can get out with at least a small profit...

    I still think we are going down, if not, profit, if yes, a good test of the theory...
     
    #1814     Sep 8, 2010
  5. nitro

    nitro

    Your proposition will get too complicated. In particular, you should be interested in that case as to what your Sharpe/Sortino ratio is, since we may make the same amount of money, but you or I will do it with less risk. In the real world that is how you get "graded". Otherwise, we would all play martingale strategies until we made money, a known losing proposition in a negative edge game.

    You are adding every x number of points, and that can happen ten or twenty times a day. In NFV we add when the difference between SPX and NFV is outside some range, so we are adding far more conservatively.

    This exercise is futile because if your entry points are truly random, you cannot make money after expenses simply by money management, and I don't have the patience to explain it to you. I don't mind if you run this experiment on this thread, but don't ask me to spend too much time on it.
     
    #1815     Sep 8, 2010
  6. ammo

    ammo

    nitro, where did the nfv go out
     
    #1816     Sep 8, 2010
  7. nitro

    nitro

    1068.06.
     
    #1817     Sep 8, 2010
  8. ammo

    ammo

    thanks again
     
    #1818     Sep 8, 2010
  9. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    Sold at 1107.5, making the r/r app. 1:1....
     
    #1819     Sep 9, 2010
  10. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    See? You thought you had a strong edge and here we are at 1110, 13 pts later. That was my point....
     
    #1820     Sep 9, 2010