Kudos to MMs

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by nitro, Oct 23, 2008.

  1. nitro

    nitro

    Still, I don't know where the extra ~100 handles goes between "NFV" and SPX. It may be that if I had that, the above would become clear.
     
    #1251     Mar 10, 2010
  2. ammo

    ammo

    i've always guessed it was a bernanke affect
     
    #1252     Mar 10, 2010
  3. my prediction:
    eventually nitro will come up with SNFV (super-new FV) that explains everything and is 100 points higher than NFV. the following day the market will crash to somewhere between NFV and FV.
     
    #1253     Mar 10, 2010
  4. nitro

    nitro

    :D :cool:
     
    #1254     Mar 10, 2010
  5. nitro

    nitro

    [​IMG]
     
    #1255     Mar 10, 2010
  6. zdreg

    zdreg

    [​IMG]
     
    #1256     Mar 10, 2010
  7. nitro

    nitro

    "FV" ~866
    "NFV" ~1051
     
    #1257     Mar 11, 2010
  8. dont

    dont

     
    #1258     Mar 11, 2010
  9. nitro

    nitro

    It is random within a band, but definitely not random all of the time. Buying the bottom of the band and selling the top has a definite edge. It is true in trending and sideways markets. There is definitely a band of "FV" but it is not so simple to come up with, and it is 100% dynamic.

    For example at this very moment, here there is edge being long if ES is red because "FV" is close to unch'ed.
     
    #1259     Mar 11, 2010
  10. nitro

    nitro

    What I don't quite get is these guys that are standing toe to toe with each other. I mean, it could be hell or high water, and there is someone on the bid. Easier when markets are rising since you can lean on mutual funds slightly that must be long.

    The only way I can explain that is they are trading against something else, like a long gamma position against an SPX options position, or perhaps against a short stock position, or any number of more complex "baskets", all trying to get alpha. Remember, futures are primarily a hedging mechanism, so they are Brownian motioned to (heat) death.

    Still, as the title of this thread suggests, these guys have taken this to a very high art.
     
    #1260     Mar 11, 2010