Krugman: Gas and Food prices have Nothing to do with FED Policy

Discussion in 'Politics' started by achilles28, May 8, 2012.

  1. Brass

    Brass

    If you're going to respond to my post, then please be sure to let me know when you actually answer the question:
     
    #31     May 8, 2012
  2. <IMG SRC=http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/fredgraph.png?&id=DCOILWTICO,FEDFUNDS&scale=Left,Right&range=Custom,Custom&cosd=1995-01-01,1995-07-01&coed=2012-05-01,2012-04-01&line_color=%230000ff,%23ff0000&link_values=false,false&line_style=Solid,Solid&mark_type=NONE,NONE&mw=4,4&lw=1,1&ost=-99999,-99999&oet=99999,99999&mma=0,0&fml=a,a&fq=Daily,Monthly&fam=avg,avg&fgst=lin,lin&transformation=lin,lin&vintage_date=2012-05-08,2012-05-08&revision_date=2012-05-08,2012-05-08>

    Where's the correlation?
     
    #32     May 8, 2012
  3. achilles28

    achilles28

    Fed funds are high = low oil.

    Fed funds are low = high oil.

    Are you kidding me? It's right on the bloody chart.

    What do you think inflated the Nazdaq? Or the housing market? Or the DJIA, in '07?
     
    #33     May 8, 2012
  4. Max E.

    Max E.

    You keep on avoiding the same question i have asked you over and over.

    If the fed was to raise interest rates to 10% tomorrow would the price of oil remain the same?

     
    #34     May 8, 2012
  5. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    Or he could just join the National Guard with you to help make ends meet.
     
    #35     May 8, 2012
  6. achilles28

    achilles28

    The question is irrelevant. Currency value isn't relatively determined. Currency value is based on purchasing power, which is a relative distinction against consumer prices. In this global ZIRP environment, currencies are in a race to the bottom. So while the EUR/USD or usd/gbp doesn't change much, oil, gold, silver, copper, meat and softs expressed in every one of those currencies, changes for the worse. Global prices are going up.
     
    #36     May 8, 2012
  7. Ricter

    Ricter

    Lol.

    Anyway, if Krugman thinks FED policy has no, as in "zero", effect on gas and food prices, then of course he's wrong. But I'd wager a closer look at the video will reveal some nuance, some qualification, in his statement.
     
    #37     May 8, 2012
  8. So if one were to look from the years 2000 to 2003, the Fed Funds droped from 6% to 1%, why did oil trade roughly sideways?? When the price of oil started increasing in 2004, the US economy was improving. Throw in the emergence of the BRIC's and you will, eventually, realize that world growth was the predominant reason for the run in oil prices.

    Why are you including housing and the Nasdaq when in the first post of this thread you make claims that Fed policy also influence the price of corn, wheat and oil when clearly it does not.
     
    #38     May 8, 2012
  9. Brass

    Brass

    Really? Relative value isn't important? Currency value is determined in a vacuum and should always be going higher as a matter of course? You may wish to share your epiphany with a few exporters.

    Again, just to satisfy my curiosity, against which currencies are you referencing the US dollar? Because in a global economy connected by trade, an assessment is by necessity relative.
     
    #39     May 8, 2012
  10. <IMG SRC=http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/fredgraph.png?&id=DCOILWTICO,FEDFUNDS&scale=Left,Right&range=Max,Custom&cosd=1986-01-02,1986-07-01&coed=2012-05-01,2012-04-01&line_color=%230000ff,%23ff0000&link_values=false,false&line_style=Solid,Solid&mark_type=NONE,NONE&mw=4,4&lw=1,1&ost=-99999,-99999&oet=99999,99999&mma=0,0&fml=a,a&fq=Daily,Monthly&fam=avg,avg&fgst=lin,lin&transformation=lin,lin&vintage_date=2012-05-08,2012-05-08&revision_date=2012-05-08,2012-05-08>

    Longer term chart.

    1988 to 1993, Fed Funds drops 10 to 3, oil price does squat. That little blip in '90 was Iraq War.

    The 2000 era stands out at the BRIC's were coming online.
     
    #40     May 8, 2012